*SPOILER* So I think the new primal in 3.5 part 2 is...

[dalta]

Even then they need worshipers to stay sustained. Power doesn't make that much difference. As I said, Bahamut and all three of the Warring Triad required worshipers in status to sustain them.

arent the eyes of nidhog acting as batteries?

He was using the eyes of Bahamut's broodbrother as a aetheric battery, and was probably thinking of that great dragon that dealt the first defeat of the Garlean invasion.

still dosent really explain why the other prayers didant count to its form :/

[Belhi]

My understanding is Primals require a source of Aether (a power source) and Worshipers (to help maintain its form). This is why the Eyes of Nidhogg don't make me think they would replace the need for worshipers. Clearly the primal is sustained somehow but for now I am very keen to find out how.

[Bloody]

Even then they need worshipers to stay sustained. Power doesn't make that much difference. As I said, Bahamut and all three of the Warring Triad required worshipers in status to sustain them.

They don't necessarily need constant prayer to stay in form. Think of it more like us eating food. Do we need to eat constantly? No, not literally. But we do need to consume regularly. They've also shown that the power of prayer lasts more than a few moments (Phoenix, anyone?) so the Shinryu-rip off summoned by Ilberd could be good for a few days at least, especially with aether batteries like the Eyes. Throw in the Doman belief in Shinryu and you may have a source of unwitting sustenance there as well.

[Zohar_Lahar]

still dosent really explain why the other prayers didant count to its form :/

Let's look at it this way: does the "Breaker of Worlds" have to look like a man to fulfill the goals of the dying soldiers?

[KarstenS]

So in the End, the new raid will be about defeating Shinryu, which is (currently) bound by an Allagan machine.

Anyone else think this is a little bit to close to the binding Coil of Bahamut?

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

So in the End, the new raid will be about defeating Shinryu, which is (currently) bound by an Allagan machine.

Anyone else think this is a little bit to close to the binding Coil of Bahamut?

We actually don't know this at all. "The Bend of Time: Omega" says nothing about Shinryu's involvement, and as of now, we know precious little about the fate of this new Primal. Let's wait to see how it all shakes out before we assume it to be so blandly derivative.

[DamianFatale]

You guessed right. -clap-

[swiss_Momo]

dosent the primal being Shinryu kinda mess up the lore of primals?

i mean the catalyst's for the primal were crying out for Rhalgr to avenge them warent thay? didant griffen make sure of this? or dose everyone really think Rhalgr was a dragon god?

The whole "they were prayinf to Rhalgr" thing is actually only present in the English client. In the other 3 versions Ilberd talks about "summoning a new god who doesn't need any prayers".

[Yasuhiro]

The whole "they were prayinf to Rhalgr" thing is actually only present in the English client. In the other 3 versions Ilberd talks about "summoning a new god who doesn't need any prayers".

I wonder why Koji decided to do that? I never knew in the English version they said that. That's false information being fed to the player...

[Magic-Mal]

It's clear that Illberd did his homework when he was thinking of how to primal. And a powerful rage-filled one at that.

1. Round up a bunch of people who want vengeance on the Empire.
2. He made it seem like victory was snatched away by the Empire so they can cry out in desperation, and cry to Rhalgr for vengeance on the Empire.
3. Knowing that there aren't enough worshippers for his Primal, he chose to use sacrifices in the form of Garlean and Allagan bodies(Including) his own.
4. To make sure his god was filled with rage and will set out for revenge he got Nidhogg's eyes. Nidhogg, who was the embodiment of rage and vengeance. And not only that, but a huge amount of aether.
5. Add that and you have Calamity-level Primal fueled by wrath, vengeance, and death. I think that is his fuel. When he causes destruction or when there is war, death will follow, which will give him power.

I, however, think that Illberd DID intend on summoning Rhalgr. A powerful Rhalgr that would seek vengeance for his people. But Illberd didn't know his Primal would come out as a dragon. Neither did the begging Ala Mhigans either for sure. They were crying for Rhalgr. Not some... thing. I think Shinryu was an unforseen mistake.