Thread: *SPOILER* So I think the new primal in 3.5 part 2 is...

Originally Posted by Rocl

Like, I'm certainly not on board the Anima train, but I have no idea why her being female factors in to it at all.

I think that was in response to my theory that it would be a Rhalgr corrupted and summoned as the Anima we're familiar with from FFX. Don't see why, with the different backstory, there can't be a genderswap though.

The only other god I recall being full of pain and longing also had Chains, and iirc turned into Shinryu too. But it's not like *that* story would repeat. Right?

Ok ok ok so *if* not Anima...

We're at Baelsar's Wall. Tech everywhere. All the warriors dying, feeling despair... Bit of madness thrown in...

Is it about time we had ourselves this long overdue DOOMTRAIN???

Originally Posted by Belhi

Well it will be interesting one way or the other. If it does turn out to be Shinryu then it throws most of what we know of how primals are summoned, formed and sustained under the bus. I am still betting on Rhalgr and I still don't think we will fight it. If the WoL could take down this primal we wouldn't have needed the whole seal thing in the first place. Infact if it turns out we can take it down I will be rather pissed we sacrificed an Ally for no good reason.

Oh we WILL fight whatever the primal is. Its not a question of it, but when. Now if that "when" is "3.56" then it'll probably be "Omega weakened it but its still about to rampage, yet even though we win the trial it goes cutscene mode meaning we didn't actually beat it, que our new antagonist Zenos coming in and actually capturing the damn thing." Would give us even more reason to actually go into Ala Mhigo, to prevent the Garleans from using the Primal for their own military conquests.

Originally Posted by Belhi

These don't look much like the sealing spear things to me. They look like legs.

Look at the shape of the Spear Heads:


Then see the angles where the 2 bottom spears penetrate the "cocoon". You can see that certain angles, as well as spearheads inside the sphere, appear as shadows:


You can then see that where the spears penetrate the sphere, the portion inside appears dark as a shadow and at that particular angle, the shafts fade into the back:

Originally Posted by Mjollnir

Ok ok ok so *if* not Anima...

We're at Baelsar's Wall. Tech everywhere. All the warriors dying, feeling despair... Bit of madness thrown in...

Is it about time we had ourselves this long overdue DOOMTRAIN???

Hasn't Doomtrain been pretty aggressively hinted at for 5.0? I think it got asked about directly at FanFest, and it was basically said that Doomtrain was being saved for when we were on Garlean turf.

So are we operating under the assumption that this primal requires no worshipers to exist? Cause the main issue I hold with the Anima and Shinryu options is that every primal before now has needed worshippers to be sustained. Its why the Allagans kept so many in stasis.

Sure, maybe you could corrupt an existing primal but then it wouldn't really be Rhalgr though would it and Rhalgr worshippers wouldn't sustain it.

What Ilberd said certainly implied something along those lines, although I took it more as "desperation is a substitute for genuine belief" rather than "this Primal doesn't need prayer to exist."

Personally, I'm on Team Rhalgr. Shinryu relies too heavily on an outside (and arbitrary) connection between it an Omega, Anima is a total grasp, and Rhalgr is the actual deity of the people being slaughtered (even if it's just via lip service).