DualShocker Interview - 3.5 pt 2 next week, supposedly

[Naunet]

And how exactly would you make offtanks "tank more" instead of sitting in DPS stance?

Well I dunno. Those other MMOs must be doing /something/ right, because "how much damage does my tank do?" is about as far from my mind as "what breed of pig would look the best in my yard" when I'm raid leading in WildStar. It's simply not a consideration, nor has it ever been a consideration in the other MMOs I've run raids in. Except for this one. :/ And though WildStar's raids are certainly amazing, they do also boil down to "get a boss's HP to zero" - just as EVERY MMO out there does.

So yeah, I'm a little unsure as to what to change in FFXIV because honestly there's just not that much of a difference... the mechanics are vastly more complex and engaging in WildStar I guess. But even in MMOs with similar levels of raid complexity, you don't really see this meta cropping up to such a degree as it does in FFXIV.

[Lambdafish]

So yeah, I'm a little unsure as to what to change in FFXIV because honestly there's just not that much of a difference... the mechanics are vastly more complex and engaging in WildStar I guess. But even in MMOs with similar levels of raid complexity, you don't really see this meta cropping up to such a degree as it does in FFXIV.

Honestly, I think the existance of WAR and SCH in general are to blame. There shouldn't be a tank or healer that are designed to DPS. Imagine the game where your two options were DRK and PLD, would DPS be considered as much?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Honestly, I think the existance of WAR and SCH in general are to blame. There shouldn't be a tank or healer that are designed to DPS. Imagine the game where your two options were DRK and PLD, would DPS be considered as much?

Currently? Absolutely. In fact, people would double Dark Knight in that case because it pulls higher DPS in the off tank role. A good Dark Knight can nip at the heels of a Warrior provided they have a Ninja. As for Scholar, some groups go Astro/White Mage and you're still expected to be DPSing on either. Damage is everything in this game regardless of the job you play.

[Evergrey]

Damage is everything in this game regardless of the job you play.

But DMG doesn't have to be everything. If people just relaxed a little and enjoyed the content instead of rushing it. Everything is manageable even without tank/healer dps.

But, this is a game, and people have done the same thing over and over and over. So it's only natural that people want to rush through it so they don't have to spend more time doing it.
It's hard to keep everything new and fresh. That's why alot of people take a break so they don't tire themselves out with the same content over and over.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

But DMG doesn't have to be everything. If people just relaxed a little and enjoyed the content instead of rushing it. Everything is manageable even without tank/healer dps.

But, this is a game, and people have done the same thing over and over and over. So it's only natural that people want to rush through it so they don't have to spend more time doing it.
It's hard to keep everything new and fresh. That's why alot of people take a break so they don't tire themselves out with the same content over and over.

That is their enjoyment. I, for instance, enjoy jumping into new content and figuring out where I can improve; what tweaks I can make to my rotation. And while healer DPS isn't a necessity, tank DPS is. That is partly how they maintain aggro.

[Evergrey]

That is their enjoyment. I, for instance, enjoy jumping into new content and figuring out where I can improve; what tweaks I can make to my rotation. And while healer DPS isn't a necessity, tank DPS is. That is partly how they maintain aggro.

Yes, some people enjoy it, but it's not necessary to complete content. So in that way "DMG is not everything".
I just like being picky with words and point it out. =P

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Yes, some people enjoy it, but it's not necessary to complete content. So in that way "DMG is not everything".
I just like being picky with words and point it out. =P

It's a catch all reference because no matter how you play, the only important aspect of this game is how much damage you do. Tanks and healers aren't brought for just their dedicated roles but how efficient they deal damage. A tank who refuses to drop their tank stance or a healer who won't DPS will both struggle to find raid groups willing to take them because XIV simply doesn't demand enough from neither role. It's all about damage.