Thread: DualShocker Interview - 3.5 pt 2 next week, supposedly

Originally Posted by Evergrey

True, Holy is not the same as Magic. But it would funtion just like how Magic works, casting a spell or either offensive or defensive nature.
So it would in a way or another "intrude" on the DRKs domain.

About as much as WHM "intrudes" on BLM...

All I'm really getting from you is that you're worried your DRK will be outshined by PLD.

Originally Posted by Evergrey

True, Holy is not the same as Magic. But it would funtion just like how Magic works, casting a spell or either offensive or defensive nature.
So it would in a way or another "intrude" on the DRKs domain.

I feel you could do a weird specifically only holy "faith" theme especially for higher tier spells, what I mean is - what do you need for primals? Lots of energy and faith, Paladin could have a group mechanic revolving around their faith and their allies on them to take care of them.

You pray to your tanks anyways sometimes lol "please save me I have aggro !" With paladin's ability to cover and restore it could turn into an interesting visual and story issue / concept (they do not harness any specific primal and do not become a primal but what goes on around primals would be on a much smaller similar level to you - Goku Spirit bomb man). Would fit as they harness a steady stream of holy (warrior of light) power and are given faith due to their high group / teamwork feeling. So now giving paladin a lot "magic" is not really a big deal, they're not really doing normal tier magic and mechanics could be built around faith like helping the team empowers their stuff (again to me paladins should be built on oath, faith, unity, vow). I help you, this best helps me. (Would need to add a few more support options for building faith though, forced to overheal to build faith would be lame).

Edit to add I wouldn't recommend stack consuming abilities like warrior, maybe more like aethertrail/trait in sch/ smn.

Finally an excuse to give paladins a shiny super sayian effect like many other jobs too lol.

Also, I stood by PLD even during the early times of Gordias, when people didn't want PLD in their Savage. My fear now is that there will be many PLDs intruding my space.

Originally Posted by Evergrey

I'm more concerned that classes will blend too much with each others and loose their unique touch.

A good thing to worry about, but you're looking at this a bit in the wrong way. I don't mean for SE to just copy/paste DRK spells onto PLD, I mean for PLD to get their own unique spells or abilities.

And Example.

Sacred Shield: Creates a dome of protection around the Paladin which absorbs 50% of the damage Allies in the area of effect take and transfers 10% of absorbed damage to the Paladin.

What this would be is a channeled spell/ability with a long recast that makes a dome of light around the PLD that can be used to counter boss LB/Raid wide AoE moves. In looks the PLD will have their shield floating in the air in front of them, off hand held out towards it in a bit of a noble/knightly pose as a mostly see-through barrier with four shields, generic looking kite shields, on all four sides facing out.

And it would work something like this.

Raid boss uses LB move to hit all raid members for 20k damage.

Sacred Shield absorbs 50% of this cutting it down to 10k for everyone but the PLD who still takes 20k.

10% of the absorbed damage, x7 party members = 70k so 10% would be 7k, is sent to the PLD who now takes 27k damage total from this.

And since the ability doesn't do anything for the PLD, since they still take full damage, it doesn't give them an edge over DRK/WAR in personal damage mitigation, just in supporting their party members.

Most PLD's in i250+ gear should have about 30k HP in a full party, and since this is before other buffs like rampart most PLD's should live with about 3-8K left. Granted the healers would need to heal them up, but since there are two tanks and this will work as both MT and OT it shouldn't be to much of a problem.

With this ability we've covered the "Shield" theme, the "Holy Magic" themes, the "defense focused tank" theme, and given PLD some interesting raid utility all at the same time without stepping on any DRK or WAR toes in the process. This is the kind of "unique" abilities SE could use to make PLD more interesting to play, and something people are happy to get in a DF run.