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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    I'm sorry but how does that even make the slightest bit of sense? Someone doesn't want to do a secondary role, so that means the primary role is not for them...how does one even make such a conclusion? Let alone, the truth is this. The reason healers have offensive spells is for progression. I don't think you can go through solo content with heals alone. People can try to justify dpsing as a healer, but at least be logical with it.
    How the game is designed that its way more efficient in most content to perform your secondary role to the best of your ability. If read and taken into consideration my whole post instead of looking at individual parts in a bubble you would realize of why there is very little justification to let "i don't like DPSing" to hold you back from dpsing just as much as someone who did.

    You don't break black mage up into fire or ice mages, you don't break bards up into archer or song bards, you do everything. The primary and secondary role thing only matters is when your in a 8 man party where you can be a main healer instead of dpsing where you are allowed by parties standards to play your job differently for more tactical reasons

    Also the bit about her not being right for her job was to illustrate the point that even though she dpes she must really not like using her entire toolkit, it's like saying on black mage should only use ice spells instead of fire ones...because the fire spells don't appeal to her...but she will begrudgingly will use fire spells. So when i say that healer is not for her, that she doesn't enjoy playing it correctly and that objectively always going to be a worse player for it. That maybe she should find a game where heal only playstyle is more efficient...or play a different job that she will enjoy using her entire toolkit for.

    I understand the nuances of harder fights in how you may have to main heal or delegate roles or that you may need to hold back sometimes to regen mp. But for everything i seen she posted she doesn't seem to enjoy a basic thing of her job...DPS. So maybe these version of healers in FFXIV are not really for her, since as i explained in my post the meta of healers is to create as many windows for dps while keeping people alive. If you want to glide by on easy content and not dps at all, you may even get away with it since most parties i seen don't bust each other's chops, but it's extremely hard to justify her position when breaking it down.

    I don't see primary or secondary roles, i just see the entire job and it's potential. The role healer in FFXIV means the same for all healers in FFXIV, keep people alive while doing dps and supporting the party with buffs/debuffs.SE designed the game for every class to dps more,it's practically the meta for every role outside of dps roles... they didn't add anything like crowd control/pure support abilities that need to be managed more(like haste in FFXI) or other things for healers to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Your speech is fine, and agree for the most part but we wernt talking about dungeons, up to the point where you say emotions etc are bs. Unless you are a robot weve all got them. Look over the posts and you will see that many people have some kind of emotional responses to different aspects of the game. This game was not orignally designed for cleric to be used the way it is, its the coms idea. Thats why in some instances theres an issue with it, and some healers are worried about cleric.'I can do it so its fine' attitude isnt for everyone. Humility is much more likeable than 'Im better than you'
    I am above average player at best,I also consider the emotions of the party before my own since i don't see myself playing a single player game.That's where i choose to place my emotions, and if i lack humility because of it...i can live with that because i rather save the entire party the headache of dealing with a sub par healer and unnecessarily wasting people's precious limited time in their mortal coil.
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    Last edited by Deliciou5; 03-21-2017 at 08:31 PM.

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