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  1. #1031
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Even at 20% echo, healer dps is expected. I guarantee you if I went in there and didn't dps in a light farm, I'd be asked to do it even if I'm solo healing.
    Your lucky you got in a light farm as a healer, I couldnt I did most of mine in pvp on all three animas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Your lucky you got in a light farm as a healer, I couldnt I did most of mine in pvp on all three animas
    Not really? My data center usually has parties with multiple healers. Have been in one with up to three, all of us dps for most of the fight. I've solo healed it as well (AST and SCH) and dpsed. That's why I know if I wasn't dpsing in a light farm, I'd be asked to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Again implying that I never tried.....
    Please don't take it as that. I'm just looking at the numbers to try and grasp the situation. You may have to link these other logs that you are talking about because I just don't see them.
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  4. #1034
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Not really? My data center usually has parties with multiple healers. Have been in one with up to three, all of us dps for most of the fight. I've solo healed it as well (AST and SCH) and dpsed. That's why I know if I wasn't dpsing in a light farm, I'd be asked to.
    lucky in the sense of getting in there I meant and tried to get in one llooking for an hour one day ang gave up. I did join one full of healers once and failed the dps, we really arnt built to dps are we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Please don't take it as that. I'm just looking at the numbers to try and grasp the situation. You may have to link these other logs that you are talking about because I just don't see them.
    My thread its in there not linked but you did mention it. I was quite happy with my healing performance until was told I was a crap sch, imagine my confusion, when I was thinking I was a healer.
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  6. #1036
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    I did join one full of healers once and failed the dps, we really arnt built to dps are we?
    Respectfully disagree. All of the built in dps abilities are quite effective when utilized properly.

    And it is most certainly possible to clear and farm A1S with a party of healers, for that matter (because it has been done). It is entirely dependent on the collective skill level of the party.

    This is my sixth relic and I've seen quite a range of party compositions, which can make an otherwise boring chore moderately entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    My thread its in there not linked but you did mention it. I was quite happy with my healing performance until was told I was a crap sch, imagine my confusion, when I was thinking I was a healer.
    The only logs that contain what you are referring to are Creator Story Mode. But in those your fairy and the AST healed the whole thing and the AST did 415 DPS and you did 633 DPS. Are those the ones you are referring to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Except in a Savage raid group in XIV, the healer's job is to contribute to DPS, and without that contribution, the team will fail - even if the rest of the team members are the best players in the world (unless, in the context of XIV, all the DDs and tanks are overgearing the content). Which is why it's a fair comparison.

    Although the example was directed more to the point that it's a team game, and everyone in the team should work towards progressing the team's common goal and not refuse to do that just because you don't find it fun, or whatever.
    Well I just dont get why some are pressuring the devs for harder content. If you want it hard then dont use healer dps. It will make you challenge the group more, just seems logical, if you want the content to entertain you longer than it does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    The only logs that contain what you are referring to are Creator Story Mode. But in those your fairy and the AST healed the whole thing and the AST did 421 DPS and you did 518 DPS. Are those the ones you are referring to?
    No it was story mode but was 630 or something cant remember exactly, maybe its been removed but you did comment on it when you posted in the thread I started. It was more than 500 I know that and was a9 Well it was just to illustrate that I did learn sch and did try I think my partner was wmg at the time. November 2nd, 633 dps refurbisher 527dps on faust. Just saw you correct that yes thats the one and just practicing. Dont raid with sch atm though, still sort of learning ast although still not doing much dps the sch Im with is hitting 1200 dps now as Lambdafish staded at least Im creating the space. But yes I have to admit Im not a pro healer and make so many stupid mistkes to mechanics, I really struggle sometimes with the content itself so Im way off optimal. Do always try to do better though
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Respectfully disagree. All of the built in dps abilities are quite effective when utilized properly.

    And it is most certainly possible to clear and farm A1S with a party of healers, for that matter (because it has been done). It is entirely dependent on the collective skill level of the party.

    This is my sixth relic and I've seen quite a range of party compositions, which can make an otherwise boring chore moderately entertaining.
    was being a bit sarcastic and you always disagree with anything not pro dps thats why I said it. And it really isnt entertaing to run farms in any sense of the word not to me anyway
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