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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    There's a difference between not kwowing everything your class can do and refusing to do it on purpose.
    There's no point in playing astrologian over white mage if you're not drawing cards at all.
    This isn't like everyone like to say "a different playstyle" (it's commonly used nowadays to justify any kind of behaviour it would seem...)
    It's just being lazy indeed, but no reason.

    Like one day, I went to Dun Scaith as a Dragoon. I died (while I though I did the mecanic right, but it can happen to everyone).
    I waited a Raise.... I waited... both healer were dpsing and.... i had nothing?
    So of course I asked if I could get a Raise. The healer told me that I didn't have to die. Having a healer who refuse to raise is something bad for such a content as 24 man raid so, I vote kicked him. The other healer got offended that it was a vote kick abuse because we can't vote kick someone because he has a "different playstyle".
    Refusing to raise as a healer is a "playstyle".

    Where is the community going. The worst thing, he didn't got kick. (probably because he was a healer, but even so...)
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    Kaethra's Avatar
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Where is the community going.
    You bring up some good facts. But its not just FFXIV. Other games, MMOs and even simple multiplayer games have the same issue. The problem is cultural. And even extends beyond gaming in general though I'm not going to go there as that topic goes beyond the scope of these forums.

    In general its apathy. Both towards others and one's self. In your example of not getting a raise.. if this was 15 years ago, you'd have been raised/rez'd in a heart beat. Even 10 years ago you would have been picked up.. maybe ribbed a bit for dying, but still picked up.

    Now its 'just another dumb DPS that got themselves killed, whatever.' Never mind the reason, the condition, or whatever. Even I've been known to make offhand comments in my TS server to my friends when something like that happens to a random in the group. Course.. I still pick up the person as I don't hold such happenstances against them. Even if I utter something stupid under my breath. I'm not going to allow my annoyance (or amusement) to hurt them.

    But not everyone is like that unfortunately. My point of view is everyone gets a shot. Everyone gets a mulligan. Everyone gets a chance to have fun so long as they aren't trying to wreck it for anyone. Basically if everyone is being cool to one another. I'm going to overlook mistakes. I'm going to pick up the slack. That's just what you do in a team oriented environment. It is a game after all.

    And truth be told, its usually like that. People are cool. I've had the luxury of the last few days of good groups. People chat a little, as much as they can considering working through the content. Crack a joke, and just all round being pleasant towards one another. We do sometimes remember the bad more than the good. I can remember quite vividly a group I ran about 2 weeks ago where someone had the gall to tell me I was bad at my healing because I didn't rez him mid fight (was low on MP and tank was low on HP, the thing called priority kicked in). To make a long story short, I let the insults roll off my back until the dumb player decided to keep it up till the end of the dungeon. So I vote kicked him. Apparently the group was waiting for me to do it. And glad to see him go. Smooth sailing after that.

    But today I ran at least six or seven dungeons and all were outstanding. Some close calls from incidents beyond our control (just bad luck). But no one got antsy, everyone understood and we just kept at it. More importantly, had fun.
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