What is it with some tanks, healers, and dps?

[AmalonStar]

Ok now seems like almost every run I do on my blm either

1) The tank can't seem to hold aggro on groups and I pull mobs off him while I have quelling strikes up and going, or

2) The healer can't always keep up on heals with either groups of mobs or on the boss's or both cases, or

3) the other dps is performing very poorly using spells/abilities in the wrong type of situations like not using thier aoe's on group pulls or using aoe's on single target mobs

I've also been in runs where it's been a combination 2 of the 3 or all three making for a very long and trying run. This has happened while doing the expert roulette, some of the latest content to be released. I know ppl have different skill levels but when they're struggling with basic skills that are taught in the hall of novice how do they get that far into the game and still not know what they're doing?

[Leep]

What's with "role" and their "ineptitude". They're probably just getting used to the class, give them a chance! Not everyone is as good as you.

[Silverquick]

Well... I admit... there is a possibility the game is leveling people a tad too fast... before they really know or understand how to play their characters...

From what I understand the game did not used to be this easy. I've talked with a couple people in my FC and they've said there was no way in hell they could have gone up through the levels as fast as I did.

I am pretty sharp and generally pick things up quickly, and am an MMO and Final Fantasy vet.... but I can't necessarily say all the people coming up through the ranks are... and some of them may have gotten the slingshot treatment so are a little behind.

[IveraIvalice]

The dps might still be learning their stuff but the tank and healer could also be fine at doing their job but the gear is not up to what the rest of the party is. The healer can know what to do but if their gear makes their heals weak it's not skill but stats and if their there in roulette then they are probably there to get their ilvl up. When I tanked when drk first came out I would get into some roulettes with people who has way better gear and even though my ilvl was good for the dungeon, the tank has to be good compared to the parties ilvl not the power of the monsters.

Or it could be that they are returning players that are preparing for stormblood. I am actually in that category, I haven't played seriously in months and I'm way behind. I'm sure I'll get into parties where my ilvl is far lower then the rest of the party. I know how to play drk very well but I can't risk tanking for gear kuz I know I wouldn't be able to hold hate at all anymore

[Faliandra]

You know....I've noticed that a lot of these people are using a Kinna weapon....

Actually, I have made the mistake myself and tried to lvl my monk in the palace of the dead.
And while I'm generally only sticking to very few classes (despite having them all at 60), I can easily say that my MNK comprehension is by far the worst while I feel that i definitely developed at least a basic understanding of every other class I lvled normally by doing dungeons.

It doesnt matter much to me cos MNK never interested me that much and I'll never play it other than getting it to max level, but
PotD definitely messed up my whole understanding of the class. You level up so fast inside, you're getting all sorts of skills thrown at you within minutes and
theres no time to stop and read tooltips. But you do lvl quite fast that way. So in the end, youre 60 with a bunch of skills you have no idea how to use properly.

Say what you will but I think PotD is to blame.

[Unscene]

I'm sorry I'm bad at videogames. I'll try to do better next time.

[Doozer]

OP, have you stopped to ask them why they're performing that way, or perhaps offer them tips? The game doesn't really guide people enough for them to always know how to maximize their potential at any level, and some people just don't know. If you're not going to try to help them, then don't complain about them I guess?

[AmalonStar]

I understand the ppl that have used Potd to level up to 60 and getting into more end game type content and not really having any idea as to how to even use thier job. Ppl shouldn't be able to level that quick, it can make it frustrating for them because they haven't learnt thier selected job and it's frustrating for everyone that had to level thier job/jobs the old fashioned way and had actually learnt them.

Now in the cases I'm referring to where I've noticed these things I mentioned in my original post these players are equipped with like full upgraded scripture gear, like thier ilvl is at least between 160-170 and they still struggle. I've checked ppl during these runs especially tanks when I'm pulling mobs off them while using quelling strikes and seeing them equiped fully with 260-270 gears.

[Adire]

With all the guides on the internet, the utilities available outside group content to practice on (dummies anyone?), and generally very casual difficulty in dungeons, there's no good excuse past perhaps having a mental or physical handicap for continuing to be dead weight in a party past level 30 or so. Especially not by level 60. If you're in a dungeon for the first time ever, that's somewhat reason to expect someone to struggle some, but otherwise no.

If you are doing poorly despite much experience with the content being run, it speaks as either laziness or apathy. Your ineptitude will not go away unless you want it to and put in effort to make it go away.

[Faliandra]

To the guy questioning whether help has been offered
Or not:

I have tried that many times and in 95% of cases my offer to help
has been met with silence or attitude.
("Hey ast I noticed you haven't been playing any cards.
May I ask why?" -"they arent needed.I play how I want").
It is quite discouraging tbh. In many cases, at least on EU servers,
it's probably because of the language barrier.