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    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    the fact you all just blindly ignore the lore reasons
    And you blindly ignore Xelphatol.

    Even if we were to ignore the fact that incomplete summoning is canon, why aren't we at least getting more egis? We were promised to get them 3 years ago lol.

    I really enjoy pet classes in MMOs but at this rate I don't think that beastmaster would be a good idea at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
    -snip-
    I wasn't blindly ignoring Xelphatol so please don't just assume things thank you.

    I am however annoyed about the lack of new egi's as the next person, I would love to see some more doing a variety of different things, Like one of them more focused on doing aoe damage / to be given more of a reason to shift them around in combat. :sigh: Anyway, I shouldn't open my mouth any more, I'm just frustrated at the job I love to play constantly being *words I can't say* on non-stop by people. Its so soul crushing at times, though I do apologise for lashing out at Jerbob.

    And who knows come Stormblood the new Summoner abilities might revolve around some more pet interaction which would be nice, I'd even like them to expand the amount of abilities each Egi has.

    Anyway thats enough derailing, not gonna reply again about this. We all have our opinions on the matter, lets just leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    I wasn't blindly ignoring Xelphatol so please don't just assume things thank you.
    Sorry, this is a really hot topic to me.

    I trash talk summoner because I love the job so much. I just wanted it to be "appropriate", be it with real summons or egis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
    Sorry, this is a really hot topic to me.

    I trash talk summoner because I love the job so much. I just wanted it to be "appropriate", be it with real summons or egis.
    I am afraid they gave their reasoning for not adding more Egis. They felt that the existing Egis covered all the bases of what a SMN is going to be doing and so felt adding new Egis would just be replacing older ones.

    I am not saying I agree with it, but that is the reason they have given and the reason they look at Egi Glamours.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeyTheSequel View Post
    I would like the current jobs changed up that allow them to perform more roles. paladin healer, whm dps, ninja tank, drg tank, drk dps, war dps. Ditch the whole disciple of *** and just give them different soul stones like arcanist.
    They have already pretty much ruled this out. Yoshi P said he would prefer to spend the time it would take giving an existing Job another role in just adding a completely new Job.
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    Last edited by Belhi; 03-13-2017 at 07:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    I am afraid they gave their reasoning for not adding more Egis. They felt that the existing Egis covered all the bases of what a SMN is going to be doing and so felt adding new Egis would just be replacing older ones.

    I am not saying I agree with it, but that is the reason they have given and the reason they look at Egi Glamours.
    If they don't plan on adding more then they can remove them and add a super power that comes from each of them that would be far better then having access to only three of them kind of like bahamuts power. They should have held off on releasing summoner because its obvious that it was rushed and not planned out properly. I'm interested in seeing what the changes will be in the expansion for the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inosaska View Post
    They should have held off on releasing summoner because its obvious that it was rushed and not planned out properly.
    Personally I loved summoner and scholar in ARR. They aren't specs, but they work like specs (a familiar gameplay, but another role in a party). Certainly the most interesting 2.0 jobs to me, changing between them and still being a decent player is why I rerolled this one as arcanist.

    But they got really lazy with summoner in the expansion, not sure why. I mean, it's not like anyone rages at me for using Ifrit in duties, perfect balance isn't needed at all. The most important thing in a job is "feel". Even if the elemental wheel was removed, black mage still has this "feel" (cast big destructive spells).

    I wonder how much of this balance obsession hinders new jobs from being what they could be? Like, I imagine that if we had beastmaster it could have only one pet. Or, if we had, lets say, a ranger, it would probably have black mage-tier mobility. It kinda sucks when I think about it.
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    Last edited by Ririta; 03-15-2017 at 02:01 PM.