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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    If it was 275 there would at the very least be precedent for it. They pulled the same stunt in diadem the first time, but then admitted that the Gordian weapons should have been 215 and stated that the 210 relic was the hell it was to make it equal to the effort of beating Gordias.

    This new fiasco shows that not only did they not learn a damn thing from last time, but they went back on their own philosophies. The most damning thing of it all is that Creator Savage is still on loot lockout, and there's at least one more patch left in the expansion

    If they did this on the first of June, or even the middle of may, nobody would care. We'd just be coasting to the expansion then. However now, when we don't even have our casual murdering Steps of Faith expansion gate boss is just way too soon
    They pulled the same stunt with 210 equips during 210 content? Which, like I said, was complained about just as hard, if not harder, than these 280 weapons? Despite being on par item level with upgrade tome gear? That's why I say even at 270 these threads would exist, because that's on par with upgraded tome gear, which was the complaint about 210 equips.

    Also, people would complain about it if it came in june, because we're still be in Heavensward. People wouldn't complain about if they did it after Stormblood, because people would go, "What's a Diadem?" on mention of it. I can tell you after we got 230 gear there were people that forgot Diadem was a thing, even after complaining over 210 gear like it was the death of XIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    You don't understand someone working to get the best weapon in the game. And you don't respect the feelings of players trying for it. I can't explain it any way other then I did and I'm not going to copy/paste yet again. There was one reason only that I bothered with the anima, and SE killed it after just nine days.
    You bothered with it because you thought it was going to be BiS, despite how in 3 months it would just be glamour. Again, if you are upset, honestly crying at the keyboard over it, you can leave. Your sub, not mine, I can't make you stay. However, you're missing a specific thing.

    Nobody, and I mean NOBODY in the entire game is going to leave you out of content for not having this Diadem weapon. Unless it has a cool appearance tied with it, everyone is going to forget about it in 3 months tops. Meanwhile, for 5 less, you got a questline to watch a weapon you nurtured grow, from a small little 170 weapon looking exactly like eso gear, to a unique, beautiful, glowing model that shows your determination with the achievements and bragging points to back it up. This is also coupled with the fact that because you did your anima, the Stormblood version will allow you to obtain an advantage that anyone who didn't bother to do won't obtain, and you'll be able to use this item still for some time afterwords. In fact, I bet come Stormblood, you'll replace both of these items on the exact same quest, showing how little of a difference it makes at the end of the day.

    Honestly I'm surprised you didn't quit when they nerfed all the steps you completed, considering that wasted your time too since anyone that waited didn't have to do ARF 1000 times like you did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
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    Nope, I knew it would be nerfed, I could have waited. And the nerfs made it easier for people to get the same weapon as me. My goal, and I'll say it yet again, was to have a BiS from final step until SB. I don't care if things were/are made easier for others. What I care about is that they decided to make the anima I worked on no longer BiS because the new Diadem is so awful they have to lure people in with an uber-god weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    Nope, I knew it would be nerfed, I could have waited. And the nerfs made it easier for people to get the same weapon as me. My goal, and I'll say it yet again, was to have a BiS from final step until SB. I don't care if things were/are made easier for others. What I care about is that they decided to make the anima I worked on no longer BiS because the new Diadem is so awful they have to lure people in with an uber-god weapon.
    But is the 280 weapon not makings things easier for others? They don't have to grind out a questline, therefor in your eyes, it's easier (And honestly is, I'll admit.)

    Although I would love to see where Anima's were stated as Best in Slot by Square, since I don't recall them saying that (Which meant nothing was broken.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    But is the 280 weapon not makings things easier for others? They don't have to grind out a questline, therefor in your eyes, it's easier (And honestly is, I'll admit.)

    Although I would love to see where Anima's were stated as Best in Slot by Square, since I don't recall them saying that (Which meant nothing was broken.)
    Let me just quote myself...again...

    "What I care about is that they decided to make the anima I worked on no longer BiS because the new Diadem is so awful they have to lure people in with an uber-god weapon."

    And relic was BiS from the time it was finished until Heavensward. The anima would have followed suit until they realized the Diadem was terrible and needed a big enough carrot to draw people to the cesspool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    Let me just quote myself...again...

    "What I care about is that they decided to make the anima I worked on no longer BiS because the new Diadem is so awful they have to lure people in with an uber-god weapon."

    And relic was BiS from the time it was finished until Heavensward. The anima would have followed suit until they realized the Diadem was terrible and needed a big enough carrot to draw people to the cesspool.
    So if you based it off of your thought on it needing to be BiS, then you can't blame SE on it.

    Also, you were meant to get these 280 weapons on the exact same day as the 275 step. So if there weren't issues getting Diadem in, the relic would have never been BiS to begin with for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    So if you based it off of your thought on it needing to be BiS, then you can't blame SE on it.

    Also, you were meant to get these 280 weapons on the exact same day as the 275 step. So if there weren't issues getting Diadem in, the relic would have never been BiS to begin with for you.
    How can I not blame SE? They gave no indication the anima would differ from the relic, and no warning. SE has to be thanking god for the delay right now. If the i280s hit the same day the last anima step dropped the outcry would have been ten times worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    How can I not blame SE? They gave no indication the anima would differ from the relic, and no warning. SE has to be thanking god for the delay right now. If the i280s hit the same day the last anima step dropped the outcry would have been ten times worse.
    So you thought they'd be the same as the Relic, which we tore apart in 3.0 for a couple of crystals?

    Because I surely remember the 3.0 cluster on relics being worthless since anima became a thing. Or did you not care about the years you put into the relic getting replaced by a level 55 item anyone could obtain?
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