noob perspective: main scenario dungeons. they are bad.

[Mysticdraggon]

why? because of toxicity try-hard farmers.

the main scenario dungeons themselves great actually, until that one try-hard farmer demands that the noobs, of whom is first experiencing the dungeons, skip the cut-scenes.

obviously, this had happened to me through my first playthrough of one of the major main scenario dungeons. these particular farmers new how to exploit enemy awareness to skip most of the levels of the dungeon, and presumed to make the demands as mentioned above to the noobs.

it was my first time playing the dungeon, i had no idea what i was doing, and apparently the try-hard taking lead was already at the first boss. this gave a bad impression to the story and the dungeon itself: everything was going too fast, and i could not grasp the situation. eventually, i did rent an inn, and watched the cut-scenes from there.

just wish there were a single player version of the dungeons that can only be finished once.

[bswpayton]

why? because of toxicity try-hard farmers.

the main scenario dungeons themselves great actually, until that one try-hard farmer demands that the noobs, of whom is first experiencing the dungeons, skip the cut-scenes.

Welcome to ff 14 , so many people have had this same experience, just wait til you start doing 24 mans or trails. I dont know where I heard this community was so nice and cool because its totally not true, this is from experiences and observations. But it gets worse thats why alot of players dont even participate in most of the content in the game because of the toxic community.

[Mysticdraggon]

Welcome to ff 14 , so many people have had this same experience, just wait til you start doing 24 mans or trails. I dont know where I heard this community was so nice and cool because its totally not true, this is from experiences and observations. But it gets worse thats why alot of players dont even participate in most of the content in the game because of the toxic community.

i fully understand, but that does not mean the devs should not try and make it better for players first expiriencing the game.

for example, the suggestion to make single player dungeons that can be completed only once. these dungeons would have weaker enemies and puzzle reworks that only require one player.

this would allow noobs to experience the dungeons by their own pace, then visit the online dungeons again fully prepared.

this discussion should not be settled by simple acceptance that try-hard speed-runners ruin the game's first impressions.

[Llus]

If you want to experience the cut-scenes during the dungeon you can get your FC members to help you out. In 4-man dungeons watching cut-scenes isn't as much an issue, but some people won't want to wait and may kick you. For 24-man raids and 8-man raids expect to be able to watch the first cut-scene then nothing else unless you're running with your FC. This has been my experience since 2.3 and you get used to it and will start doing the same to other noobs as you're grinding out your tomes for the week. Then that noob will come to the forums and complain about toxic try-hard farmers and you can chuckle because you had that same experience 99.99% of the other players have had.

[Revanslave]

Wait until you get to the level 50 MSQ Dungeons. They will start the boss fights before you even have a chance to skip the cutscene then you'll get locked out of every fight. It was highly frustrating.

[LuckiGoLucki]

If I want to watch the cutscenes I watch them. If that means I get locked out of a boss fight that's too bad for the rest of them. I get to go get a drink or go to the bathroom while I wait for them to either wipe without me or finish it. It's their loss, not so much yours. Though, when I was new I took it upon myself to inform my team I would be watching the CS no buts about it.

[bswpayton]

i fully understand, but that does not mean the devs should not try and make it better for players first expiriencing the game.

for example, the suggestion to make single player dungeons that can be completed only once. these dungeons would have weaker enemies and puzzle reworks that only require one player.

I totally agree with you this also was my very first post and I really do think it ruined alot of players gaming experience. Im assuming your speaking of stone vigil, if your level 47 atm, those cut scenes are so short its really no reason for anyone to be that rude and rush someone but it sucks that it happens.

[MicahZerrshia]

To be fair this has been a thing since launch. Even in the second week of the official ARR launch people were being asked or told to skip the CS. The main reason is because SE put sooooo many cs into these dungeons and long ones at that. So it can sometimes tag on an extra 20 minutes to a dungeon which is absolutely absurd to begin with.

The first few times you go through the dungeon its fine but when you are running it the 50th 100th or 1000th time you are like....nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lol

Its the same with the cs before primal fights for instance. Sometimes, if people are reading slow it can easily take longer than the fight itself. Like the leviathan cs, omg se what were you thinking.

[Mysticdraggon]

I totally agree with you this also was my very first post and I really do think it ruined alot of players gaming experience. Im assuming your speaking of stone vigil, if your level 47 atm, those cut scenes are so short its really no reason for anyone to be that rude and rush someone but it sucks that it happens.

nah, The Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium. i know my profile says 47 NIN, but in real time im 52 NIN. both are understandably larger parties, but the aurgument still stands.

[Deathgiver]

It was poor design decision on SE's part to put multiple story related cut scenes throughout the dungeon. They've since acknowledged the issue and have placed all important cut scenes at the end of the dungeons to accommodate newer players.