I280 weapons were a mistake

[Driavna]

And THAT is the real problem, they give high end weapons to people that don't even know how to play at high level.

I already seen people quit parties because one member had a PotD weapon.

After 4 relics, I think that for SB I´ll just live with primal/raid weapons

But by your logic relics should not exist either, at any point those quest test player skills.

[Ultimatecalibur]

The rarity of the weapon doesn't matter if SE internalizes the message that they can band-aid half baked ideas with incredible amounts of RNG and top-tier gear.

Its not a band-aid. The minor adjustments to how Notorious Monsters spawned in the original Diadem was a band-aid. The changes have altered the Diadem so that it is closer to how it was originally intended to be played.

Pretty much everyone who is crying about the i280 weapons are doing so because they are knee-jerk reacting to hearing about a new item with better stats than their Relics and Alex weapons even though it doesn't have the glamour rewards of the others (which tends to be the actual long term reward for doing those pieces of content).

[ErryK]

Those who raid and are now less rewarded than casual player despite all the effort they put in raiding.
Also, those who hated grinding the relic to have one of the most powerful weapon for SE to tell us it's now void.

I think this mindset is stupid. You're saying a 1% chance at an i280 weapon totally invalidates the effort individuals put into getting i265/i270/i275 weapons?

Sure, you do you, I guess.

[RaijinSupreme]

Because some people will only do content that will potentially give them bigger numbers, the Coven weapons are bait to get them to do Diadem in the hope that they get the 777 jackpot.

Other players are going to use the i265 pink gear to gear up their other jobs for SB. Other are going to be farming for the new Minions.

They likely predicted it and realized that the storm will blow over after a few days when players comprehend that these weapons will not be anywhere near common.

You only have a 1 in 72 chance of getting a weapon with a 1 in 13 chance of getting a specific weapon and the Emergency Mission will not always happen and is easy to fail.

Players have a little more than a 1% chance of getting a weapon and a bit more than a .1% chance of getting the specific weapon they want on top of a rare chance of seeing the event.

So then, again, what's the point?

Once you get the minion, that's done. The RNG minion can't save the diadem from becoming barren, because not even the hunting hawk was successful at doing that.

You can get i265 gear from here yes, but once scripture is uncapped, and the Mhachi Shilling (spell check) isn't weekly locked, you can do that to gear up to full 270 in no time, and I assume most people would rather have full 270 than 265.

So the only thing left would be the i280 wep, and as you stated yourself, people will start to realize after a few days (a few DAYS) that even trying to get this weapon would be a ridiculously waste of time because of how rare your chances are of actually getting it, and even more so a waste of time since there is no current content that truly needs it, and it would just be outgeared in stormblood anyway.

The only other thing I can truly find any real use of the diadem after that is gathering. honestly.

So again, what is the point?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Finally someone with common sense. I'm glad I'm not the only one here who shares the same opinion.

And answering to those who feel "cheated" and "offended" by the new bis wep.

If this 280 wep came out in conjunction with Savage and anima at the same time. I will probably complain.... but we are 3 months away from SB and people Dare to complain about this freebie?

Stop crying over and move on. You look and sound pathetic.

Be GREATFUL and ENJOY what you've got left of HW.

This subforum should be rated 25+ tbh

By that logic, we should simply accept whenever content SE delivers with a smile and thank you? How dare people be critical.

Incidentally, I'm not nearly as salt but can certainly appreciate people's frustration. Our relics are not even two weeks old and no longer BiS. Does it matter at this stage? No. However, that is not the point nor people's contention. Had this released in May, you likely aren't going to see the current backlash.

Perhaps you ought to practice what you preach. Screaming in all caps is no less childish than those attributing this to the world's end. After all, you're venting your frustration yet condemning others for doing the same.

[Ogulbuk]

Our relics are not even two weeks old and no longer BiS.

All this tells me is SE's biggest mistake was not delaying the entire patch. Diadem and i275 Anima were supposed to land on the same patch.

[Xeros_cl]

But by your logic relics should not exist either, at any point those quest test player skills.

Honestly, Relics like the anima should exist not because the progression was just tome farms

I´m proud to say I polished my skills as Healer and Tank with the ARR relics, when you were doing all dungeons like in 12 min because the relic item was RNG.

[Mature]

By that logic, we should simply accept whenever content SE delivers with a smile and thank you? How dare people be critical.

Incidentally, I'm not nearly as salt but can certainly appreciate people's frustration. Our relics are not even two weeks old and no longer BiS. Does it matter at this stage? No. However, that is not the point nor people's contention. Had this released in May, you likely aren't going to see the current backlash.

Perhaps you ought to practice what you preach. Screaming in all caps is no less childish than those attributing this to the world's end. After all, you're venting your frustration yet condemning others for doing the same.

Don't confuse CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM with CRYING OVER it.

Then people wonder why this forum is never taken seriously by Admin/ Mods

[Ultimatecalibur]

So then, again, what's the point?

Once you get the minion, that's done. The RNG minion can't save the diadem from becoming barren, because not even the hunting hawk was successful at doing that.

You can get i265 gear from here yes, but once scripture is uncapped, and the Mhachi Shilling (spell check) isn't weekly locked, you can do that to gear up to full 270 in no time, and I assume most people would rather have full 270 than 265.

Scripture won't be uncapped until 4.0 releases limiting the ability for casuals to get i270 gear that way. Creator Savage will likely be uncapped in 3.56 when it will also get nerfs and echo which benefits midcore/hardcore players.
The diadem i265 gear is going to be the primary way casuals gear up above i260.

So the only thing left would be the i280 wep, and as you stated yourself, people will start to realize after a few days (a few DAYS) that even trying to get this weapon would be a ridiculously waste of time because of how rare your chances are of actually getting it, and even more so a waste of time since there is no current content that truly needs it, and it would just be outgeared in stormblood anyway.

The only other thing I can truly find any real use of the diadem after that is gathering. honestly.

So again, what is the point?

Because there will always be players who do not see it as a waste of time. As long as there are players with a reason to queue there will be a point.

Most of the complaints about the i280 weapons seem to stem from a perceived belief that the existence of a .01% drop rate weapon invalidates getting an i275 weapon as if they could be purchased for 99 Bronze Skypirate Spoils.

[Beckett]

In an alternate reality: "What the hell, SE? Why are the Diadem weapons only i270? That's less than the relic! What is even the point of Diadem??"
In another alternate reality: "What the hell, SE? Why are Diadem weapons i275? That's the same as the relic! Now the relic is pointless!" / "That's the same as the relic! Diadem is pointless!"