I280 weapons were a mistake

[LuckiGoLucki]

I guess I'll bring over here what's being said in the other thread about this.
1.) It is incredibly difficult to obtain this weapon. People have done the math: every player has less than a 1% chance of even getting this weapon. It does not invalidate the current top relic weapon. You investment in the relic is far from useless when looking at weapon power and glamour
2.) Casual players will not be getting this weapon unless they are insanely lucky and it manages to fall in their pocket in their first run of diadem

[Gleipni]

For me,its a bit like the bird drop when its hard to get them,yeah yeah the chance are low,but you still see tons of people with them,so that ilvl 280 weapon,with a litlle bit of time,you will start to see a lot of them. the armor should have been ilvl 260 and the weapon 265/270 no more,and on thing thats is infuriating,is that yea,the weapon is ilvl 280,but with the weapon damage,its a ilvl 285,+2 weap dmg for melee is a lot,you dont even need good roll on your weap,even without secondary stat,those ilvl 280 weap are already better.
some people are too lazy to do content,and its the raider ,mid,hard core gamer that are punished.

[Mature]

You do realise that 3.3 was 3 months away from 3.4 right? and that 3.1 was 3 months away from 3.2? Gear was made obsolete in these patches, however if casual side content had given a higher ilvl than that raid tier there would have been uproar. Why is this any different?

Because HW is done. Whatever we are getting now is a freebie of extras. Echo coming soon same as Alex loot lockout.

ENJOY what you have left instead of crying over it.

[Lambdafish]

Because HW is done. Whatever we are getting now is a freebie of extras. Echo coming soon same as Alex loot lockout.

Lets see... savage is still active and has a lockout, anima content came out last week, and we still have a patch cycles worth of time before the expansion. If I'm not mistaken, this is 3.55b, and we still have 3.56 to go. Heavensward isn't done until that 3 turns into 4.0, just as 3.3 doesn't end until 3.4 begins.

This is not dead content that is being made obsolete, it is content that people are still actively doing (in the middle of the patch cycle), I get that you don't care, but that doesn't make Heavensward done.

[bswpayton]

a 1 percent drop rate makes it seem not even worth it really , much rather have a higher drop rate and a lower item level like 260 or 265

[RaijinSupreme]

a 1 percent drop rate makes it seem not even worth it really

Which begs the question: What is its purpose?

Is it to get people to play the Diadem? With a drop rate like that, why waste your time?

The only thing the addition of this weapon is guaranteeing is the further split of the game's community. The backlash was so easily predictable, it almost hurts. It worries me that the dev team didn't see this coming, because its either they weren't capable of predicting this, or they DID predict it, and just didn't care.

Stormblood needs to get here like now.

[Dement]

Which begs the question: What is its purpose?

Is it to get people to play the Diadem? With a drop rate like that, why waste your time?

The only thing the addition of this weapon is guaranteeing is the further split of the game's community. The backlash was so easily predictable, it almost hurts. It worries me that the dev team didn't see this coming, because its either they weren't capable of predicting this, or they DID predict it, and just didn't care.

Stormblood needs to get here like now.

This is all part of the biggest concerns about it. It's annoying that some random person will likely have a better weapon than my relic by the end of the week but it's not world ending.

The big problem for me is that SE has shaken my hope that they learned anything from all of HW. They created terrible content, withdrew terrible content for a few months, re-released terrible content now with FATE farm (because everyone loves FATE farms right?! People kept doing them for a long time so they have to love it.) and then slapped a BiS weapon inside of it as a carrot on a stick to get people to keep trying to do it. Now they may look at it and not realize that it's terrible content because Hey, people are doing it, right?

[Ultimatecalibur]

Which begs the question: What is its purpose?

Is it to get people to play the Diadem? With a drop rate like that, why waste your time?

Because some people will only do content that will potentially give them bigger numbers, the Coven weapons are bait to get them to do Diadem in the hope that they get the 777 jackpot.

Other players are going to use the i265 pink gear to gear up their other jobs for SB. Other are going to be farming for the new Minions.

The only thing the addition of this weapon is guaranteeing is the further split of the game's community. The backlash was so easily predictable, it almost hurts. It worries me that the dev team didn't see this coming, because its either they weren't capable of predicting this, or they DID predict it, and just didn't care.

Stormblood needs to get here like now.

They likely predicted it and realized that the storm will blow over after a few days when players comprehend that these weapons will not be anywhere near common.

You only have a 1 in 72 chance of getting a weapon with a 1 in 13 chance of getting a specific weapon and the Emergency Mission will not always happen and is easy to fail.

Players have a little more than a 1% chance of getting a weapon and a bit more than a .1% chance of getting the specific weapon they want on top of a rare chance of seeing the event.

[Dement]

Players have a little more than a 1% chance of getting a weapon and a bit more than a .1% chance of getting the specific weapon they want on top of a rare chance of seeing the event.

The rarity of the weapon doesn't matter if SE internalizes the message that they can band-aid half baked ideas with incredible amounts of RNG and top-tier gear.

[Ultimatecalibur]

The rarity of the weapon doesn't matter if SE internalizes the message that they can band-aid half baked ideas with incredible amounts of RNG and top-tier gear.

Its not a band-aid. The minor adjustments to how Notorious Monsters spawned in the original Diadem was a band-aid. The changes have altered the Diadem so that it is closer to how it was originally intended to be played.

Pretty much everyone who is crying about the i280 weapons are doing so because they are knee-jerk reacting to hearing about a new item with better stats than their Relics and Alex weapons even though it doesn't have the glamour rewards of the others (which tends to be the actual long term reward for doing those pieces of content).