I280 weapons were a mistake

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Get over it.

Nah man, get over yourself.

I'm not bothered by 280 weps either, but that doesn't mean I'm not aware of how messed up it is as an addition, and a poorly timed one at that.

Weapon acquisition is really getting absurd in this game. I mean, raid weps make sense, except in Gordias. Then they changed tome weps to require a 7-week gate thanks to an arbitrary number of Normal raid drops plus the original tome costs (which were a 3-week gate). This also seemed to slow down tome weapons to work beside relic steps, seemingly (cue the /thinking emote here), and of course you have Primal weapons working as the in-betweens, crafted weapons as more expensive-yet-lesser in-betweens, and the Holy Mother of XIV Grinding; the relic. It used to be Raid/Relic (completed)>Tome>Primal>Crafted, but in this one addition alone, that flow was easily disrupted, and for what? To carrot and stick people into the Diadem?

Man, that carrot's really not looking so juicy now. And with raid weps now eclipsed prior to Stormblood, completed relics literally getting their thunder stolen within 9 days (side note: as much as I hate relics, even I'm working on a 2nd one, largely for glamour reasons), and everything else below that devalued based on time/effort/skill requirements when compared to what it takes for that 1% i280 wep. . . well, we're quickly hitting that "why even bother?" point.

Still, "get over it"? Nah dude. Roll over and play the "Enjoy what you have now" card if you like, but if you accept it now, you'll have to accept it when they do it again in 4.0. . . You know, just like the "Atma 3.0" step at the start of the Anima relic (after so many people hated it the first 2 times around, skippable or not), and that time they AGAIN rebranded FATES and hunts and called it "the Diadem".

[Lunafreya]

Funny enough I got 3 Animas and I am not bothered at all. Because some of us grind to collect weps and gear. And Anima will be a bonus for SB as it will help me get the next Relic a bit easier.

Get over it.

Collect weapons and gear? You mean there was absolutely no satisfaction in trying to obtain the ultimate weapon which is pretty much what ARR's relic was about and HW.....? You just "collect" it and don't realize the effort it takes to fully develop one? Telling people that cared for their animas to get over it is frankly stupid because they were lied to about "best weapon". Just because it doesn't bother you doesn't mean we can't voice our opinion dude. Using 3 animas as your excuse is also stupid because if you did 3 then you'd realize what SE did here is quite noticeably wrong and it insults the people and their time investment.

[Mature]

By that logic, we should simply accept whenever content SE delivers with a smile and thank you? How dare people be critical.

Incidentally, I'm not nearly as salt but can certainly appreciate people's frustration. Our relics are not even two weeks old and no longer BiS. Does it matter at this stage? No. However, that is not the point nor people's contention. Had this released in May, you likely aren't going to see the current backlash.

Perhaps you ought to practice what you preach. Screaming in all caps is no less childish than those attributing this to the world's end. After all, you're venting your frustration yet condemning others for doing the same.

Don't confuse CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM with CRYING OVER it.

Then people wonder why this forum is never taken seriously by Admin/ Mods

[Beckett]

In an alternate reality: "What the hell, SE? Why are the Diadem weapons only i270? That's less than the relic! What is even the point of Diadem??"
In another alternate reality: "What the hell, SE? Why are Diadem weapons i275? That's the same as the relic! Now the relic is pointless!" / "That's the same as the relic! Diadem is pointless!"

[ToasterMan]

The fact that SE had to put a i280 in there just to get people to consider doing it really just proves how good the content really is.

Just take a look at PoTD. It only offers 255 weapons, but........people still do Palace. Honestly, Diadem was a failure, It's fundamentally flawed. SE should've just let it rot.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Just take a look at PoTD. It only offers 255 weapons, but........people still do Palace. Honestly, Diadem was a failure, It's fundamentally flawed. SE should've just let it rot.

PotD gives out 2 unique models and is partially leveling content. This is not the same as giving out gear with random old models.

[technole]

PotD gives out 2 unique models and is partially leveling content. This is not the same as giving out gear with random old models.

PoTD aren't unique models of weapons, they are just re-skinned Heavensward leveling dungeon weapons. Kinna is mostly from The Vault.

[Kosmos992k]

The fact that SE had to put a i280 in there just to get people to consider doing it really just proves how good the content really is.

Just take a look at PoTD. It only offers 255 weapons, but........people still do Palace. Honestly, Diadem was a failure, It's fundamentally flawed. SE should've just let it rot.

It doesn't matter how good content is, in this game players have shown time and again that they will only run content that progresses their gear, even if that means farm spamming content until the point of burnout. The quality of content is irrelevant to far too many players so long as the shineys are better than the shineys they have already.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

It doesn't matter how good content is, in this game players have shown time and again that they will only run content that progresses their gear, even if that means farm spamming content until the point of burnout. The quality of content is irrelevant to far too many players so long as the shineys are better than the shineys they have already.

Except the drop rate on those weapons are so astronomically low few will bother. In fact, plenty of raiders have quit the game entirely-- be it until Stormblood or indefinitely-- due to it ruining their speed runs. You know what would make people run Diadem? More fights like the Emergency Mission. Put rewards behind speed kills, how many players died and other achievement like things. EX Primals are worthless to any raider who can clear Savage yet how many funnel in because they want the mounts? A 280 weapon isn't going to entice many people.