Tattoos, Butts, and Half Breeds...

[Medicine]

Male characters need it. It pretty much looks as if a piece of their body is missing giving a disfigured body part.

They should allow other characters to be fat like male roes too

Need it? Strong words... can you list a single mmo that actually gives you that option? They seem to be okay with it not being a thing.

Also male roes aren't fat their muscular.

[Alacran]

Whenever this topic comes up in other MMORPGs, I question it. My first response is no.. because what do they add?

FFXIV is a bit unique. Races don't have anything to them except aesthetics. And after seeing Hilda in the story, I though half-elezens looked great. And I'd probably would play one if I could. I like the features of the Elezen and Hyur, but I pick Hyur because the wide shoulders on the elezen make them look too gangly (like FFI and FFIV dark elf). Hilda doesn't have that issue. So I'd get the best of both worlds.

But of course the elephant in the room is... which half breeds do they do? Just half-elezen? Just Hyur-X combinations (that alone is another 5 races in itself)? If you do one, or a few. Someone's gonna want something crazy.

My take, do just the Hyur/Elezen combo. It's at least popular on its own merit to warrant a new race (its rare to see half elves not appear in fantasy where elves have a presence, and they are played by quite a number). The other combinations wouldn't get enough attention to be worth the effort.

I'd like a Hyur/Elezen hybrid because I like elves but don't like the body shape and faces of Elezens. A Hyur with elf ears would have the best of both to my mind.

It also wouldn't be much different from Miqotes really. Miqotes are essentially just humans with cat ears and a tail. Hyur/Elezen hybrids would be humans with elf ears. That one small difference shouldn't make something boring that wasn't before.

Agreed 110%, Half Elezen could so very simply be added as a sub race along side Duskwight and Wildwood. Just as Hyur has a sub race that changes small but noticeable features, that help define characters really well.

While there is no reason why the other races can not benefit from more options (sub raceses, more Au ra, Miqo te, Roegadyn, La la tribes...), i would like the Half/ interbred races to be kept to Elezen/Hyur.

[Jatoi]

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Lalafell are rumored to be Allagan chimeras. This is lore from the fishing guide:

aetherochemical compound #123 - Unlike anything else on Eorzea, compound #123 is thought to be another of the Allagan Empire's failed chimerical creations. The creature seems to be harmless enough, feeding only on the tiny water lice which inhabit Azys Lla's aetherochemical pools. Its outer hide, however, has given many a naturalist pause as it bears a texture almost identical to that of a Lalafell's skin. A larger, more evolved form can be caught that has "Lalafellin-like hands".

aetherochemical compound #666 - A king among aetherochemical compounds, and lord of the aetherochemical spill. When a specimen of what, at the time, was thought to be compound #123 began sprouting tiny...decidedly Lalafellin...hands, no fewer than three Sons of Saint Coinach naturalists turned in their resignations with the organization and have since disappeared from the public eye.


As for Miqo'te, they are rumored to have been from Meracydian or at least be migrating to and fro. There is the chance that they could also have been tampered genetically with Allagan technology. But here's some stuff that could allude to the origins:

Sesame Seeds:
A tiny seed rich in aromatic oil, sesame is native to Meracydia, and thought to have first been brought to Eorzea by migrating Miqo'te.

Aloe:
A thick spiny-leaved cactus indigenous to the southern continent of Meracydia. The Miqo'te are known to treat severe burns with the cool gel-like substance found inside the leaves.



There is a possibility that Miqo'te could breed with humans but at the same time, they are pretty different than the other races. Elezen and Hyur by far are the most similar to each other as they have no animal features.

Also, Sophia is a goddess of Merycidia, like Zurvan and Sephirot. Seph was worshipped by tree people who are presumably extinct. Sophia was worshipped by the races of man. Interestingly enough her tempered followers we find who were imprisoned with her are a hyur, an elezen, and a roegadyn. Likewise, they're all in Syrcus Tower gear, which is - lore wise - traditional Allagan garb
So it's possible her 'worshippers' were Allagan citizens tasked with watching her Three races with confirmed origins that pre-date the Allagan empire.

edit: Miqo'te as we know them are from a progenitor race that went extinct and there's almost no documented history about miqo'te prior to the fifth umbral era. "Descendants of the very same miqoo'te who were persecuted against and driven from Eorzea by the Allagan Empire almost two millennia earlier". So it's possible they were their own thing.
But it's also possible they were failed experiments that got out of control.


I am getting way too far into this. Help me. I am up to my neck. AAAAAAH!

[Vivi_Bushido]

The problem with adding half breeds into the customizations is that everyone would become half breeds. Eventually "pure breed" races would become the rarity when it's really suppose to be the half breeds.

[Kaethra]

The problem with adding half breeds into the customizations is that everyone would become half breeds. Eventually "pure breed" races would become the rarity when it's really suppose to be the half breeds.

You have a source on that? Because I find that very unlikely from personal experience.

Everquest, Everquest 2, Elder Scrolls Online (Bretons with a slider could determine how much elf lineage), Dungeons and Dragons Online, Neverwinter, ect all had Half Elves as a playable race. Some others have had other halfbreeds available (half orcs being one of the most common). I've never seen halfbreeds actually overtake their base counterparts. At best they've been equal to humans (with elves usually having more than humans).

Even in Everquest where Half Elves have a decent starting advantage on some servers knowing both Common/Human Tongue and Elvish, (as well as a class language if present), and able to wear both medium and small sized armor, they were still either the same size in population or smaller than humans and wood elves (there were two other races of elves as well).

[Vivi_Bushido]

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I'm not talking about some slider that determines how much of a lineage you have or adding half elfs as a playable race. I'm talking about being able to mix and match racial features of your choosing. Like being able to take the ears and tails of a Miqo'te and put them on the body of a Roe. Elezan ears on Hyurs. Aura scales on Lalafells. Aura horns on a Miqo'te. Things like that.

[Kaethra]

I'm not talking about some slider that determines how much of a lineage you have or adding half elfs as a playable race. I'm talking about being able to mix and match racial features of your choosing. Like being able to take the ears and tails of a Miqo'te and put them on the body of a Roe. Elezan ears on Hyurs. Aura scales on Lalafells. Aura horns on a Miqo'te. Things like that.

I just looked through and didn't see anyone suggest anything outside a butt or 'front' slider for their male toons. You're the first to open that pandora's box. But don't worry I don't agree with that either. I doubt many would.

[Alacran]

The problem with adding half breeds into the customizations is that everyone would become half breeds. Eventually "pure breed" races would become the rarity when it's really suppose to be the half breeds.

I'm a Highlander male without a teenage boys haircut or makeup on my face. I'm already a rarity. Might aswell have Half Elezen to combat the cat/ demon girl infestation.

AS for the half breed rarity... It was mostly due to lore reasons was it not? Ishgard had an issue showing the effects of an aristocracy being corrupt enough to take advantage of working class citizens also with concerns of purity of blood lines and lineage. That however has been cast away. We lnow others can be born with the Echo, so why could it not have been an Half Elezen?

Seriously all I am asking for is a Midlander Hyur with ear options and Elezen move set in the Elezen race selection menu.

[LineageRazor]

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All interesting, albeit stuff I already knew! However, none of it addresses your claim that Elezen and Hyur have the same progenitor, other than you mentioning that they "are the most similar to each other as they have no animal features". I was hoping you had some kind of official source that linked these two races to a common ancestor, but it appears to just be speculation.

It's my personal speculation that ALL of the so-called "spoken races" have a common ancestor - Hyur, Lalafell, Au Ra, even Garleans - and what we have today is akin to different breeds of dogs. Dogs breeds have amazingly diverse appearance, and yet are all genetically similar. However, this is just speculation, and I would make no authoritive claim to the contrary.

(As for the aetherochemical compounds - if you want to try to make them out to be more than the throwaway gag that was most likely intended, nothing about them states that Lalafell were the results of chimerical experimentation. It only states that the COMPOUNDS were. It seems much more likely that Lalafell were victims of the experimentation. I read it as implying that Allagans processed poor Lalafell victims INTO the compounds, not that they created Lalafell FROM the compounds!)

[Nadia_Nightstar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...n_live_letter/

"They are aware of requests for options to add things such as tattoos and body hair for your character, and that if they were to implement them, it would be more realistic system-wise to make them equippable items, rather than options at Character Creation."

Butt sliders they mentioned during the latest fanfest. He said that if they did so the textures of clothing/armours would get streched out and look ugly, and that no one would want that. So my guess is that the butt slider won't happen.

Half Breeds I haven't heard they say anything about yet.

Well doing away with the PS3 service is going to open a whole bunch of things they can do with the game like upgrading quality of life type stuff. So....maybe?