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  1. #61
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    Pomelo's Avatar
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Weren't the Playdead/Backflip emotes? Actually from the other Eastern Versions of FF14.

    The general theme so far is items we get from other versions cost a bit more than items actually developed for OUR mogstation. I don't know why this is?
    I'll be buying both because I love having more emotes to bring my character to life, I do find them a bit pricy. But I have 100% drawn the line at the 100$ zantetsuken emote, that I really cannot justify XD
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  2. #62
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    Amalon Starfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    Stop saying CS is a good thing, you're wasting your time.

    CS in a sub based MMO is an aberration
    This is the first time I've seen SE do something like the mog station and selling in game items like that. The sub is also about the same as the sub for ff 11, I can't say for sure about other places in the world but the cost of living goes up all the time every year the minimum wage has increased by $5 in the last 5 years that ARR has been out.
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  3. #63
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    All those against the mog station items you have to but would you rather they raise the sub fee to bring in the extra income to adjust to current the world market?
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  4. #64
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    Erin Grey
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    All those against the mog station items you have to but would you rather they raise the sub fee to bring in the extra income to adjust to current the world market?
    I would rather them just switch to F2P if the subscription model isn't working and expand the cash shop until their hearts are content than pay a sub fee AND gradually feel like a second class player if I don't spend more and more on top of that. And yes, this includes with cosmetics since we've established a precedent.

    If people make it profitable, SE like any smart business will push consumers to their limits.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    I would rather them just switch to F2P if the subscription model isn't working and expand the cash shop until their hearts are content than pay a sub fee AND gradually feel like a second class player if I don't spend more and more on top of that. And yes, this includes with cosmetics since we've established a precedent.

    If people make it profitable, SE like any smart business will push consumers to their limits.
    So you would rather them switch the game into a free to play game? Any free to play game I've ever played has been garbage in regards to content, graphics and general gameplay
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    So you would rather them switch the game into a free to play game? Any free to play game I've ever played has been garbage in regards to content, graphics and general gameplay
    That's all subjective. What's objective is many free to play games have found financial success. If SE finds themselves stagnating with a subscription model, they have two choices. Blend the subscription model and cash shop practices into some kind of hybrid or switch to free to play. If I remained a player, at least I'd still feel like I was getting my money's worth with the latter choice. If I'm paying a sub fee and a substantial amount of content I'm interested in is gated behind further purchases, I will feel very ripped off.

    And for the record, I know of F2P games that do some things better in my opinion at least than XIV does them. Housing and combat for example.
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    Last edited by Adire; 02-28-2017 at 06:12 PM.

  7. #67
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Cash shops in a sub mmo with exclusive stuff are there to make extra money, but that profit wont be invested back. Square had a max budget per expansion for FFXIV and thats about it.

    IMO? People should stop buying anything from there but wont happen, second best option? follow Blizzard current model.
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  8. #68
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    If FFXIV goes free to play that is when I quit.

    I don't mind the mog station, it is optional items, don't like them don't buy them.
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  9. #69
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    Never thought a human being could be stupid enough to not want things to be added in the game and wish to pay for it.

    That' ain't logic. Or at least give the option to get those items in the game as well, with achievements, grinds etc.

    Some will pay, others will grind.

    CS exclusivities are a shame (i don't mind recolors)
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    If FFXIV goes free to play that is when I quit.

    I don't mind the mog station, it is optional items, don't like them don't buy them.
    You'll be getting a sub fee and a substantial amount of "optional" yet exclusive content locked behind the cash shop a-la-a F2P on top of that if people make it profitable enough for SE. If you want said content, it won't be any more optional than paying a sub fee to play the game is. Then you may as well have the game be F2P.
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