Is our sub fee not enought

[AmalonStar]

I would rather them just switch to F2P if the subscription model isn't working and expand the cash shop until their hearts are content than pay a sub fee AND gradually feel like a second class player if I don't spend more and more on top of that. And yes, this includes with cosmetics since we've established a precedent.

If people make it profitable, SE like any smart business will push consumers to their limits.

So you would rather them switch the game into a free to play game? Any free to play game I've ever played has been garbage in regards to content, graphics and general gameplay

[Adire]

So you would rather them switch the game into a free to play game? Any free to play game I've ever played has been garbage in regards to content, graphics and general gameplay

That's all subjective. What's objective is many free to play games have found financial success. If SE finds themselves stagnating with a subscription model, they have two choices. Blend the subscription model and cash shop practices into some kind of hybrid or switch to free to play. If I remained a player, at least I'd still feel like I was getting my money's worth with the latter choice. If I'm paying a sub fee and a substantial amount of content I'm interested in is gated behind further purchases, I will feel very ripped off.

And for the record, I know of F2P games that do some things better in my opinion at least than XIV does them. Housing and combat for example.

[Driavna]

Cash shops in a sub mmo with exclusive stuff are there to make extra money, but that profit wont be invested back. Square had a max budget per expansion for FFXIV and thats about it.

IMO? People should stop buying anything from there but wont happen, second best option? follow Blizzard current model.

[Bixillarla]

If FFXIV goes free to play that is when I quit.

I don't mind the mog station, it is optional items, don't like them don't buy them.

[Adire]

If FFXIV goes free to play that is when I quit.

I don't mind the mog station, it is optional items, don't like them don't buy them.

You'll be getting a sub fee and a substantial amount of "optional" yet exclusive content locked behind the cash shop a-la-a F2P on top of that if people make it profitable enough for SE. If you want said content, it won't be any more optional than paying a sub fee to play the game is. Then you may as well have the game be F2P.

[Watachy]

Never thought a human being could be stupid enough to not want things to be added in the game and wish to pay for it.

That' ain't logic. Or at least give the option to get those items in the game as well, with achievements, grinds etc.

Some will pay, others will grind.

CS exclusivities are a shame (i don't mind recolors)

[Jandor]

Technically if they only ditched the sub fee it would be B2P not F2P.

[Adire]

Technically if they only ditched the sub fee it would be B2P not F2P.

If they kept the purchase price and dropped the sub fee, yes.

Whether they'd go the route of SWTOR, dropping the purchase price and sub fee, or the route of The Secret World and being B2P is anyone's guess. Either would be preferable to me over paying a sub fee and getting an increasingly F2P-esque cash shop though.

[Jandor]

If they kept the purchase price and dropped the sub fee, yes.

Whether they'd go the route of SWTOR, dropping the purchase price and sub fee, or the route of The Secret World and being B2P is anyone's guess. Either would be preferable to me over paying a sub fee and getting an increasingly F2P-esque cash shop though.

I assume they would go the Secret World route.
I agree though, this constant cash shop expansion is annoying.

[Watachy]

I assume they would go the Secret World route.
I agree though, this constant cash shop expansion is annoying.

I would love someone using the datas to show the CS exclusivites added on the past months.
In my opinion, they added more CS exclusivities during the last 6 months than they've been doing since 2.0