Charging for runs.

[Lewtskie]

True it will not be a significant impact, but every bit helps and I just think its better than trying to take advantage of people just wanting to enjoy a new job. I'll not hide that it's a slight against the sellers. People can be inspired to join in when goodwill is offered. And I'd prefer not to see something so low as selling a dungeon run in the PF. Something good comes out of it in the long run.

It'll also help as I can see them in action and get some opinions before I decide trying them out myself.

[Aerowaffle]

I just think its better than trying to take advantage of people just wanting to enjoy a new job.

This is the problem.

Because a dungeon takes 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 dps. It's impossible for everyone to enjoy the new jobs at launch. The number of players who will be willingly playing tank and healer when these new jobs are dancing in front of them will drop for a while after launch. Yes, there will be players that queue as tank purely out of the goodness of their heart for complete strangers. But many players are still driven towards self-benefiting rewards, and instant tank queue only goes so far.

So some players, instead of playing the shiny new jobs, are instead going to play a job that they wouldn't otherwise for the sake of making Gil. You scorn them, but I believe these players would likely just not tank if they were not selling their queue. To ask them to queue as tank for no additional reward, when they would rather do something else, is asking them to take a bullet for the sake of your own desires.

[Lewtskie]

Dots

You offer a fair point, they could be going out of their way and you might consider the gil a fair compensation. I still can't help but see it as taking advantage of a situation nobody wanted to be in. And were it tanks already at 70 that'd be something, but people leveling tanks and healers alongside also doing this will just make things worse.

[Belhi]

You offer a fair point, they could be going out of their way and you might consider the gil a fair compensation. I still can't help but see it as taking advantage of a situation nobody wanted to be in. And were it tanks already at 70 that'd be something, but people leveling tanks and healers alongside also doing this will just make things worse.

People levelling tanks and healers aren't going to have much motivation to run levelling dungeons multiple times unless the MSQ quest exp is stingy. Its not like the first time through they are going to be spamming dungeons to level the first time through. The second time through they will probably have switched to levelling their dps alts. Look at the thread asking if any tanks or healers are going to switch and a lot are saying 'Tank/Healer first, then my dps alt'.

What motivation do Tanks and Healers have to queue more than necessary the first time through beyond either helping a friend or getting warm fuzzy feeling for making some random dps's queue time shorter?

[Kathryn]

And this is where ill pee off any tanks wanting to take advantage of others cause if I see any tanks charging for said run ill offer to do the run for free. Screw you guys for being greedy we alrdy get paid alot more gil than a dps for dungeons.

[Belhi]

And this is where ill pee off any tanks wanting to take advantage of others cause if I see any tanks charging for said run ill offer to do the run for free. Screw you guys for being greedy we alrdy get paid alot more gil than a dps for dungeons.

As said before, even if you do that, it will probably have very little impact in the amount a charging tank will make. Unless there is a massive number of tanks doing free runs all day to counter the queues the market will remain.

[Kathryn]

As said before, even if you do that, it will probably have very little impact in the amount a charging tank will make. Unless there is a massive number of tanks doing free runs all day to counter the queues the market will remain.

Well people could always refuse to pay tanks for dungeon runs this amount of greed shoulndt be encouraged luckily there are many other forms of levelling availible to people in this game.

[XSamsaraLotusX]

True it will not be a significant impact, but every bit helps and I just think its better than trying to take advantage of people just wanting to enjoy a new job. I'll not hide that it's a slight against the sellers. People can be inspired to join in when goodwill is offered. And I'd prefer not to see something so low as selling a dungeon run in the PF. Something good comes out of it in the long run.

It'll also help as I can see them in action and get some opinions before I decide trying them out myself.

I will sell runs to dps. The healerr is free.
I do it becouse so much of thecdps on thjis forums have the mentality of , no neex tanks fucxk them. So if they think like this oi show them on what lbl of need they are.
100k for dps is what i will take.

[XSamsaraLotusX]

Do it. No preoblems at all.

[XSamsaraLotusX]

Greed??
So selling crafts for 10m or even 1m isoik but asking 10k-100k for a msq dungeon is wrong?