Samurai Melee DPS thoughts

[Cenerae]

I lost a lot of interest in the class when I saw it was going to be DPS, personally. But that's me just being really dissappointed we're just getting 2 DPS jobs, and I typically play tank or healer.

Gives me a good excuse to put off starting either of the new jobs in favor of getting AST to 70 I guess.

[Antonio_Xul]

After maining tank for 2 years and hanging up my axe & swords a year ago to main DPS, I'm glad I can pick up swords again as a DPS. Coolest weapons always went to tanks. DPS finally got some awesome blades, so I'm happy.

[Duelle]

Its very Rurouni Kenshin, I'm excited for it :P

I'm waiting for Kenshin Himura, Kensheen Himura, Kenshin Heemura and all the variations of that to eventually appear on the servers.

I'm just hoping glamours allow someone to create a facsimile of Shinguuji Sakura, because with DPS SAM focused on iaido, it's a possibility.

[Nominous]

People only said that cause it they didn't think SE would do something almost certainly to lead to massive queues and much salt at launch. I can guarantee you that there will be threads about DPS complaining on the queue times for MSQ dungeons at launch.

This is such an overblown issue.

On the launch of expansions there has always been enough players to fill each server to max capacity, and we just got Cross-Server PF with 50+ parties pretty consistently. That's with almost the bare minimum players active. Do people REALLY think, considering those couple of things, there's really gonna be that big an issue? Find friends. Join Discord groups. Ask your FC. It's the perfect time to get more social.

On the topic of Samurai as a DPS? Dream come true. The fact that there's only 2 new jobs gives me hope that they really worked hard to create an interesting image and place in the meta for both.

[AnaviAnael]

My thoughts on SAM as DPS? I'm not surprised, considering this Game Watch interview from two years ago. (I liked to the reddit post instead of the interview, since it was in Japanese and I'm fairly certain most of us here don't speak Japanese. )

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rview_summary/

They originally had an idea to make it a tank, but Yoshi feels in his heart that SAM is a DPS and that's what it was made into.

[Brian_]

The queue issue is not overblown.

In HW, we saw how large a swing a single popular job could create with DRK. That job alone took the least popular role in the game and made it the most popular for a month+. DPS had instant queues for everything and were adventurer in need for weeks despite out numbering tanks and healers 3:1:1.

So now you take 2 of the most popular and demanded jobs and release them both in the same expansion as DPS. There are going to be issues. You have to be blind to not see it.

And, on the point of normalization, what people have to understand is it's not going to normalize nearly as fast as some people think.

For a tank main, you have 30 levels. 10 on PLD, 10 on WAR, and 10 on DRK. After that, they are done with leveling content in Stormblood. The thing with adding a new job is you add on more play-time to a specific role. If there was a new tank job starting at 50, you would've almost doubled the amount of leveling work a tank main would need to do. That's what DRK did in HW. It added 30 levels worth of tank play-time to the game. Tank players now needed to invest 30 more levels into the role and all of the relevant content.

In the meanwhile, a DPS player will still have tons of DPS leveling to do.

So in the short term, it's a nightmare due to the influx of SAM and RDM players. In the mid term, it's still a nightmare due to all the tank / healer players that already finished leveling their mains and are moving on to DPS roles. It's only in the super long-term that things might normalize.

[EdwinLi]

Watch 5.0 release 1 Tank and 1 Healer.

People will complain with no new DPS to fill the 2 DPS slots along with Tank and healer Jobs having only 1 slot in DF their queues will be a nightmare.

But hey why complain when "More People" are playing Tank and Healers during the first month of 5.0.

[Maero]

Wonder if down the road there will also be the option to wield Naginata's?
I never got on the SAM excitement train so no biggie, was just a thought.

[Nominous]

The queue issue is not overblown.

It sure is.

Simply put, this game isn't 100% instance based, though it certainly can feel like that as a veteran player at end-game. So yes, the issue is overblown in the sense that queues for DPS have, and always will be, worse than the other roles. Your response is a great example of the level of exaggeration we're getting to. It's long term consequences? What, when people are running their one dungeon a day, and it takes them longer to queue, despite it being the only activity they log for (and complaining about it at that)? Okay. When people are refusing to RF raids and trials because, "lel can't skip soar"?

Also worth note: It's always been faster to do anything BUT dungeons for DPS players. The only exception to the rule was on HW launch, where FATEs scaled poorly, and we didn't have PoTD. Dungeons, and DF are majorly for convenience, the latter for people who don't want to make friends or go through the 'trouble' of making their own party. The efficiency of doing DF/Dungeons has always been worse, so maybe people will finally turn to other methods and utilize the small amounts of variety we are given.

If people want to conveniently ignore the other content and systems used to make partying easier in the game so that they can have something to worry so much about, that's fine. These days, seems like that's just the mantra of every MMO community. Meanwhile, a million SAM and RDM will be figuring out that this game actually does have other things to do.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Wonder if down the road there will also be the option to wield Naginata's?
I never got on the SAM excitement train so no biggie, was just a thought.

At most Naginatas will appear as Lancer/Dragoon weapons like most polearms.