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    seraf's Avatar
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    Anrui Mydia
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Because people want to be lazy and they can get away with pushing 1 2 3 in a group setting on dps 90% of the time.
    People can be lazy and press 123 as a pld just as easily though.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by seraf View Post
    People can be lazy and press 123 as a Tank just as easily though.
    yeah, but a 123 tank cant really hold hate against groups, ive seen it, and its awful. a 123 dps just makes the run go slower, and no one ever calls them out on it because "you use a parser, im gonna report you"

    A friend of mine had a nin in a lvl 50 roulette do 35 dps over the course of the entire dungeon. THIRTY FIVE DPS. I can auto attack and do more, on PLD.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 02-19-2017 at 09:57 AM.

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    Gahz Rilla
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    yeah, but a 123 tank cant really hold hate against groups, ive seen it, and its awful. a 123 dps just makes the run go slower, and no one ever calls them out on it because "you use a parser, im gonna report you"
    Using a parser isn't reportable. Using a parser to make yourself feel 1337 and telling everyone "Look at my numbers noobs! Git Gud! You all suck!" IS reportable.
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    Astarotte Niuhali
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoWhit View Post
    Using a parser isn't reportable. Using a parser to make yourself feel 1337 and telling everyone "Look at my numbers noobs! Git Gud! You all suck!" IS reportable.
    Hence the "no one ever calls them out on it" part of what you quoted.
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    Gahz Rilla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slirith View Post
    Hence the "no one ever calls them out on it" part of what you quoted.
    My point is there are ways to "help," or try to help, someone that may not be performing up to par. Just telling someone "my parser shows you're only doing 100 dps....do better" doesn't help anything.....and everybody here knows that if parsers were ever allowed "officially" that is exactly what would happen.

    edit: you can call someone out and not have to say anything about using a parser
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    Last edited by AutoWhit; 02-19-2017 at 10:18 AM.

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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoWhit View Post
    My point is there are ways to "help," or try to help, someone that may not be performing up to par. Just telling someone "my parser shows you're only doing 100 dps....do better" doesn't help anything.....and everybody here knows that if parsers were ever allowed "officially" that is exactly what would happen.
    Someone at 60 doing one 100 dps has more problems than an inefficient rotation. Auto attack is worth about 300 dps with no cds, buffs, or party effects, not even heavy thrust up. If a drg is doing less than that, at lvl 60, in an expert roulette, then they simply dont care to do better.

    Just heavy thrust and auto attack, and nothing else, is 460.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 02-19-2017 at 10:23 AM.

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    Yui Oshima
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    Mateus
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Someone at 60 doing one 100 dps has more problems than an inefficient rotation. Auto attack is worth about 300 dps with no cds, buffs, or party effects, not even heavy thrust up. If a drg is doing less than that, at lvl 60, in an expert roulette, then they simply dont care to do better.
    Be honest with me here. How many times have you actually seen that? I've never seen anyone that bad in all of my time playing this game.
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    Chandra Noctis
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    Mateus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Someone at 60 doing one 100 dps has more problems than an inefficient rotation. Auto attack is worth about 300 dps with no cds, buffs, or party effects, not even heavy thrust up. If a drg is doing less than that, at lvl 60, in an expert roulette, then they simply dont care to do better.

    Just heavy thrust and auto attack, and nothing else, is 460.
    If someone does this badly they are likely watching shows and not paying attention or talking in discord or fc chat at the same time.
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    Gahz Rilla
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Someone at 60 doing one 100 dps has more problems than an inefficient rotation. Auto attack is worth about 300 dps with no cds, buffs, or party effects, not even heavy thrust up. If a drg is doing less than that, at lvl 60, in an expert roulette, then they simply dont care to do better.

    Just heavy thrust and auto attack, and nothing else, is 460.
    Do I seriously need to say "this is just an exaggerated example?"
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    People need to get real? How's this, adding 2 DDs will make tank and healer Q times awesome. Although it remains to be seen how many career tank and healer players continue to use duty finder. Then we also have the problems of prima-donnas in tank or healer gear, and also pretend ones only interested in quick Qs... I wish there was a better reputation system so that the prima-donna tanks and healers could be weeded out...
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