Kicked from DR Leveling because I don't slot Protect for low level dungeons?

[Rita1989]

No cleric stance > protect there is no argument here dealing damage mitigates more damage the protect ever will and it's not like anything hits hard in low level dungeons protect is just overkill

[Magic-Mal]

I don't agree with them kicking you, but I am of the opinion that Protect should have a higher cross-class priority than Cleric Stance. I understand that lower level dungeons don't really require as much healing as later dungeons, but to not protect your party as a healer is just bad form.

Protect is a necessary form of mitigation that shouldn't be ignored. Why build a bad habit early when you can avoid it?

It's not a bad habit. Protect is only.. 10% mitigation? In a leveling dungeon, 10% extra damage by enemies isn't alot and you can get the tank almost full HP with one heal. Full if you are AST. So it serves no purpose to have 5-10% mitigation over all of your damage added to the dungeon.

[ManuelBravo]

if they ask politely and you refuse...then yes. If they give you a chance to prove your skills, your wiping left and right that would be a mayor yes. 10% is 10%

[Esp]

Cuteness overload

*squeals* Oh thank you ^^

Ahem! Right, back on topic... >.>

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In all honesty, as a SCH especially which is the OP'S case, it's just much more efficient for those that want to slot Cleric first to be a viable option. Lower level dungeons don't hit as hard, plus you have a automatic healing bot that pretty much won't ever let your tank see less than 50%. The less enemies that are hitting your tank, the less damage your tank is taking, so why not?

Plus, it not a bad habit when it's ONLY the first three dungeons that it's possible to do this.

[Kosmos992k]

Alternately, since it's a low level dungeon, you could always just 'suck it up' and slot Protect 1st, cast it and proceed. There are all sorts of arguments about the unnecessary nature of Protect at such levels, but let's be honest, since Cleric Stance is slot 2, what else are you slotting in cross skills that will make a significant difference in run time?

Holy crap, people complain about anything these days.

[Lan_Mantear]

It's not a bad habit. Protect is only.. 10% mitigation? In a leveling dungeon, 10% extra damage by enemies isn't alot and you can get the tank almost full HP with one heal. Full if you are AST. So it serves no purpose to have 5-10% mitigation over all of your damage added to the dungeon.

That's a fine mentality for experienced players to have. However, think what you're teaching new players? They see this and then assume that 10% mitigation isn't all that much as they make their way to level 60 for the first time. Then they carry this mentality through extremes and raids, all the while the 'experienced' players are wondering why all these sprouts have so many bad habits.

This is the same reason why there are so many DRKs and WARs without provoke in end-game content. It all starts with 'experienced' players show-boating how unnecessary certain skills are at lower level dungeons. Neglecting the fact that low level dungeons are designed to be easy in order to teach new players how to use their skills.

[Taika]

This is the same reason why there are so many DRKs and WARs without provoke in end-game content. It all starts with 'experienced' players show-boating how unnecessary certain skills are at lower level dungeons. Neglecting the fact that low level dungeons are designed to be easy in order to teach new players how to use their skills.

That's some very slippery sloap you got there. You're arguing a player optimising their cross-class skill selection will lead to players ignoring their essential cross-class skills...

[Lan_Mantear]

That's some very slippery sloap you got there. You're arguing a player optimising their cross-class skill selection will lead to players ignoring their essential cross-class skills...

not really a slippery slope when we're talking about <30 level dungeons.

[Magic-Mal]

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It's not like I'm telling new healers to remove Protect lol. It doesn't bug me at all to see healers using it lv15-30. But I, personally, wouldn't use it.

As the tanks and DPS, unless you're dying due to not having protect, there shouldn't be any complaints. Especially if the healer is fine.

[Esp]

not really a slippery slope when we're talking about <30 level dungeons.

Problem is, not a single person here is advocating NOT having Protect as a cross class skill, just changing it's order of availability for three, and only three level 15 dungeons. Afterwards, you will always see a Protect up. (Unless your one of THOSE tanks..)

Speaking of, while it is possible to miss Provoke...how can a healer starting his/her healing career miss Protect? Or even Cleric? The only viable healer at start is CNJ...

Course, all of this can be avoided by either explaining your methods so that those new players understand your methods, or use one of the many tips all listed on the first page to make everyone happy if it's that much of a issue.