Is DPS'ing as a Healer Vote Kickable?

[Cinno]

The faerie can reliably solo heal every dungeon up to Haukke Manor. I know because when I leveled my scholar, that's what I did

Haukke Manor is a lv 28 dungeon... and you dont even get the Fairy until you get your scholor soul stone at level 30....

[Aramina]

Haukke Manor is a lv 28 dungeon... and you dont even get the Fairy until you get your scholor soul stone at level 30....

I believe what was meant was doing levelling roulette as long as it was Haukke or lower, the fairy could solo heal.

[Nixxe]

Haukke Manor is a lv 28 dungeon... and you dont even get the Fairy until you get your scholor soul stone at level 30....

Scholar faeries and the summoner Garuda and Titan egis are job specific modifications of Summon I and Summon II. As such, while you can't get the job until 30, you retain the modification even if scaled beneath level 30, so long as you're high enough to have access to the relevant arcanist spell and are equipped with the relevant soulstone.

[Malzian]

Haukke Manor is a lv 28 dungeon... and you dont even get the Fairy until you get your scholor soul stone at level 30....

But if you're a 30+ SCH running synced in Haukke, Eos is Summon I, which you have from leveling ACN. You can run Sastasha with a fairy...

[DPZ2]

It's not about people "not going above and beyond what their role is", it's about all party members making an equal effort towards the party's goal and setting the bar at same level for everyone.

This appears to imply that it is the responsibility of DPS and Tank to heal themselves at times, and not blame the healer if they die from something they could have easily avoided.

It appears to imply that DPS should never take enmity from the Tank, and actually tone down their DPS if they are doing so.

It appears to imply that Tanks should be watching the Healer constantly and grabbing adds in a timely fashion, regardless of whether it's a DPS drop for them.

That about right?

[SachiBear]

Haukke Manor is a lv 28 dungeon... and you dont even get the Fairy until you get your scholor soul stone at level 30....

When you level sync in a duty as a scholar, you still keep the fairy regardless of level.

[Cinno]

To the.. what.. six people that responded to that, I misread his post. He said thats what he did when he was leveling his scholor, so I thought he was trying to say he used it while running the dungeon as a means to level. Disregard :P

[SeriousxSarcasm]

This is just my 2 cents (and I'm aware other people disagree, but I don't really care lol. I'm allowed to be as tolerate as I desire). If a healer doesn't want to DPS, it personally doesn't bother me much (and yes, I am allowed to have my own opinion on this tyvm). I mean, it kinda sucks to see them standing around while I'm working my butt off, but I'm a DPS, that's my job in the party, and as far as I'm concerned I just DPS harder (by psychically willing my cool downs to go faster if I have to LOL). But their heals better be on point. >.> I can't count the amount of times I had a "heals only" WHM that still let the tank die. DX I don't know how! Were they distracted by the shiny lights my DT/Ruin III was giving off???

I find I like AST more in the heals-only category, because usually they're playing with their cards and still supporting the party in DPS buffs even if they're not contributing directly, you know what I mean?

If a healer wants to DPS, fab, I applaud them, but if they DPS and forget heals 80% of the time? I kinda just want to poke my own eyes out instead of continuing the dungeon with them.

[Nixxe]

To the.. what.. six people that responded to that, I misread his post. He said thats what he did when he was leveling his scholor, so I thought he was trying to say he used it while running the dungeon as a means to level. Disregard :P

Just a lot of leveling roulette after I could queue as a healer.

[Taika]

This appears to imply that it is the responsibility of DPS and Tank to heal themselves at times, and not blame the healer if they die from something they could have easily avoided.

It appears to imply that DPS should never take enmity from the Tank, and actually tone down their DPS if they are doing so.

It appears to imply that Tanks should be watching the Healer constantly and grabbing adds in a timely fashion, regardless of whether it's a DPS drop for them.

That about right?

I honestly don't get where you're going with this. It doesn't imply that a person should never make a mistake (like DPS should never take enmity from tank - of course they should aim to avoid it but mistakes happen), but yes, it does imply that not only healers but also tanks and DDs should do their best to actively participate in the fights. If a DD takes damage and has a Second Wind available, of course they should use it, and of course tanks should be pulling adds when they appear. I really don't get what you're trying to imply here.

It's a reiteration of your main theme: "it's about all party members making an equal effort towards the party's goal and setting the bar at same level for everyone". I agree with it. And agreeing with it has implications that many folks never consider.

Healers aren't the only team members. If the "community" requires them to have multiple responsibilities, they need to require the same from the other team members. Complaints I've seen appear to absolve DPS and Tank from any responsibility outside their given role.

Ah I see now, thanks for explaining! Yes, of course I agree that all party members should use all their useful abilities to support the party. I just feel like this is most often taken for granted for DDs and tanks, but for healers some people are actually arguing that they shouldn't have to do anything but that one thing. I'd dislike a BRD who doesn't sing, a DD who refuses to use Second Wind or Quelling Strikes, or an off tank who does absolutely nothing while there aren't any adds up just as I dislike a healer who refuses to do anything but heal.