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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Au Ra easily pass for a small framed adult female, or at least of age. Lalafell are different enough looking from humans to be easily distinguishable from them, though I see your point there. Justifying one thing that bothers people by using another thing that bothers people is pointless though. Crossdressing is a completely different issue.

    Public crossdressing is frowned upon in most societies and is typically only done for comedic purposes because it makes the majority of people uncomfortable to some degree. It's also not something people who are bothered by can do anything about either short of closing their eyes. So it does hurt in a way.

    There's also the argument of immersion. Men player characters in neon pink skirts and stockings and the like vs not a single NPC that's doing it in a non-comedic way. Crossdressing doesn't fit with the aesthetic of the game at all. In a poppy kind of game? Maybe, but not here.
    Can we also apply this kind of rigid thought and fidelity to "reality" and make male players only able to play male characters, and female players only able to play female characters? I could just as easily attribute your negative view on crossdressing to your impersonation of a female. (This of course, hinges on you actually being a male.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun View Post
    Can we also apply this kind of rigid thought and fidelity to "reality" and make male players only able to play male characters, and female players only able to play female characters? I could just as easily attribute your negative view on crossdressing to your impersonation of a female. (This of course, hinges on you actually being a male.)
    Not sure what you're getting at here. You don't think it's possible for a woman to feel uncomfortable with crossdressing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Not sure what you're getting at here. You don't think it's possible for a woman to feel uncomfortable with crossdressing?
    No. I'm saying it's just as ludicrous to say men can't wear pink because it isn't masculine, as it is to require male players to play only male characters, and female players to only play female characters.

    I am making assumptions that you're a man who is uncomfortable with male characters wearing "feminine" gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    I find a man with masculinity attractive and/or comfortable to be around. I do not find a man with feminity and dressed as such attractive, only uncomfortable to be around.
    Which is fine. You do you and all that jazz.

    Saying we can't/shouldn't have something because - y o u - find it distasteful is silly because what you dislike might be different from what I dislike, or what the poster above me dislikes, or what the OP dislikes. The idea of a casino bunny outfit for dudes obviously wasn't too abhorrent an idea to the devs or to the cheering people at fanfest.

    If you don't like it: do not fanta to a male, do not spend your mgp on it, and definitely do not glamour your gear to it. For the people that wanted it? Let them have fun. By the following patch everyone will have a new glamour anyway
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