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  1. #1161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Here is, the second blog post (seems to have been linked wrong in the Reddit thread).
    Okay, I found the part.

    No, he does not say anything about the number of new jobs being related to the last Moonfire Faire. The question was about whether they might make a job-specific swimsuit for all jobs in relation to that event. YP responds that they may at least make one for each role. Then he goes on to say, "At next years Moonfire Faire (meaning 2017 MFF), if it was all jobs, I wonder how many swimsuits that would be" (if they made a job-specific swimsuits for all jobs, not just roles) and then he says, "oops, I can't say" And the reason he can't say is because if he said how many suits it would be total at next year's MF Faire, then that would tell us how many new jobs we will have with 4.0.

    I had my wife confirm this, just to make sure.

    tl;dr YP was about to talk about how many swimsuits there would be total at the 2017 Moonfire Faire if they made a job-specific swimsuit for each job, but then he teased by saying "oops, I can't say", because if he did, then we would know how many new jobs there will be for 4.0.

    EDIT: And seeing as he's talking about the 2017 MF Faire, it's kinda pointless because a) we'll know in two weeks which jobs are coming and b) MF Faire isn't until August, so it would be after Stormblood's release.
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    Last edited by Kaedan; 02-04-2017 at 12:40 AM.

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    Oh, and one other thing about what YP says about the Samurai comment in the Developer's room. He says that in Japanese, if you read the dialogue from top to bottom and right to left (traditional Japanese style), it spells out "itsumo arigatou". So the reason they chose the words they used was to spell out "itsumo arigatou", not as hints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Okay, I found the part.
    Do you realize what you just did ?!

    You quote Yoshida suggesting that they might made swimsuit for each role, then wondering how many swimsuit that would make !

    Get ready for the "New role in Stormblood confirmed" theory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Do you realize what you just did ?!

    You quote Yoshida suggesting that they might made swimsuit for each role, then wondering how many swimsuit that would make !

    Get ready for the "New role in Stormblood confirmed" theory
    No, no.

    First the question was "Can you make job-specific swimsuits for each job?" To which YP responds: "Well, maybe at least each role".

    Then he goes on to say, "But if we made job-specific swimsuits for each job, I wonder how many that would be." To which he then says, "Oops, I can't say". Because if he said, then we would know how many new jobs there would be in 4.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    No, no.

    First the question was "Can you make job-specific swimsuits for each job?" To which YP responds: "Well, maybe at least each role".

    Then he goes on to say, "But if we made job-specific swimsuits for each job, I wonder how many that would be." To which he then says, "Oops, I can't say". Because if he said, then we would know how many new jobs there would be in 4.0.
    That's weird... because saying how many role specific swimsuits wouldn't hint at how many new jobs we're getting unless their adding a new role. DPS, Tank and Healer, the only 4th role you could fit into that is Support. Or if we look at it from Melee, Ranged Physical, Ranged Magical, Tank and Healer. Is RDM gonna to create a new role? Like Hybrid... but I'm 100% sure it's Ranged Magical. I'm not doubting your translation but this seems a little odd.

    Edit: **** I just re-read that last quote you translated. Nvm! Bolded the quote to see I'm stupid

    Edit 2: Interesting translation though, and makes a lot of sense. You can see how people mistranslated and misinterpreted this information. Better question though is why wasn't this translated sooner? You'd think the translating community would catch on when this information has spread like wildfire. Ah well.
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    If you swim on the beach and dive to have some fun, but suddenly get attacked...
    Wouldn't you like to have your combat gear on to fight that threat? Still, isn't it too heavy to get back up on the surface?!
    That's why a famous "wandering crafter", previously known as "wandering minstrel" designed some cute swimsuits to prevent you from drowning, but still strong enough to fight underwater!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Seriously? I frankly can't believe that you are.

    Neither of the "sources" you link here are quotes from Yoshida. They are reposts of the same garbage paraphrases you posted before.

    You have linked precisely ONE article that shows what Yoshida ACTUALLY SAID and that wasn't a paraphrase/summary and you're attempting to ignore and throw out the only valid source in favor of second hand BS.
    News sites and blogs summarizing things he said during the panel apparently doesn't qualify as reporting on what he said unless it's phrased exactly as quotations from him apparently. People commenting as they watched the panel live, their feedback and reactions confirming the same information is apparently incorrect somehow.

    Yeah we're done here, I'm not going to waste anymore time with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    News sites and blogs summarizing things he said during the panel apparently doesn't qualify as reporting on what he said unless it's phrased exactly as quotations from him apparently. People commenting as they watched the panel live, their feedback and reactions confirming the same information is apparently incorrect somehow.

    Yeah we're done here, I'm not going to waste anymore time with you.
    Wait. Wut?

    Are you arguing that second hand information is as credible as first hand information?
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  9. #1169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana190 View Post
    That's weird... because saying how many role specific swimsuits wouldn't hint at how many new jobs we're getting unless their adding a new role. DPS, Tank and Healer, the only 4th role you could fit into that is Support. Or if we look at it from Melee, Ranged Physical, Ranged Magical, Tank and Healer. Is RDM gonna to create a new role? Like Hybrid... but I'm 100% sure it's Ranged Magical. I'm not doubting your translation but this seems a little odd.

    Edit: **** I just re-read that last quote you translated. Nvm! Bolded the quote to see I'm stupid

    Edit 2: Interesting translation though, and makes a lot of sense. You can see how people mistranslated and misinterpreted this information. Better question though is why wasn't this translated sooner? You'd think the translating community would catch on when this information has spread like wildfire. Ah well.
    Unfortunately I think far too many people rely on Google Translate to translate these articles. I ran the blog through GT and I can definitely see how someone might misinterpret what was said based on what GT says. And frankly, it's hard for the translation community to keep up since these things do spiral out of control. I mean, as for myself, every time I saw a link for the supposed source article, it linked to something completely different... so in this case it was likely just a problem with bad sourcing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    News sites and blogs summarizing things he said during the panel apparently doesn't qualify as reporting on what he said unless it's phrased exactly as quotations from him apparently.

    Yes, that's exactly what it means... when the paraphrase/summary does not accurately reflect what was said.

    You are aware that there are thousands and millions of reposts of information on the internet that are worthless because they summarize the content inaccurately, aren't you? Especially when it comes to translations.

    As the poster above me says, a first hand source is always more credible than a second hand source. You have a first hand source stating what YP actually says. If anything else from a second hand source contradicts that source, then the second hand source is wrong. Period.
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