Shatter

[Synestra]

But when 3 A ranks spawn in the caves(enemy base) in Seize.. yeah. It's over.

You do know that is best scenario for you not for those that have 3 A's next to their spawn. Seize is balanced around pushing and defending so if you dont get tome near your base then you simply go and take enemys tome by force. It doesnt matter if its 24man or 72man one GC simply cannot defend 3 objectives at the sametime against 24/48 peoples, maybe just maybe if they are full premade.

[Dimitrii]

people are getting kicked for wanting to kill other players or using limit breaks on them and instead of ice.

This mode has even gotten me to not want to do frontlines anymore. People yell at you if you try to go for kills and not hit ice.

I haven't run into people like that yet surprisingly even though I completely ignore ice now as a Dragoon for the most part lol. Have not had anyone threaten to or initiate a vote to kick me nor even mention my tendency to ignore ice objectives at all in the party. But that might be because I'm freelancer now which pretty much automatically aligns me with Flames every match who are pretty well known for not caring about trying to win at all anyway. Before freelancer as a Maelstrom I actually would prioritize ice and winning over kills but as Flames the GC is so bad we arent gonna win anyway so may as well try and get some kills out of it.

[FreyaKrescent]

you'll come across them soon

[Magic-Mal]

You do know that is best scenario for you not for those that have 3 A's next to their spawn. Seize is balanced around pushing and defending so if you dont get tome near your base then you simply go and take enemys tome by force. It doesnt matter if its 24man or 72man one GC simply cannot defend 3 objectives at the sametime against 24/48 peoples, maybe just maybe if they are full premade.

When you are caught in a battle on the beach and 3 A's spawn in the caves, there is zero chance of you winning.

I'm talking about a really close match. Flames at 600/800. 3 A's spawn in the caves(instead of.. anywhere else).

Just 8 people can prevent the taking of a base. Just be defensive instead of offensive.

[Synestra]

When you are caught in a battle on the beach and 3 A's spawn in the caves, there is zero chance of you winning.

I'm talking about a really close match. Flames at 600/800. 3 A's spawn in the caves(instead of.. anywhere else).

Just 8 people can prevent the taking of a base. Just be defensive instead of offensive.

Well that scenario should be pretty rare and its possible to counter that by spreading while old tomes have still 20% left or so and go for pre-cap. Seize would be pretty bad if it didnt have that RNG element so its good that its there even if you sometimes lose due RNG.

[FreyaKrescent]

the thing is. shatter is based on Rng Lol only

[TiaHariberux3]

the thing is. shatter is based on Rng Lol only

No its not lol

Not defensive from the beginning no. But I'm talking about being defensive when you have 600/800 points left and get lucky with 3 A/S ranks spawning within 10y of each other in the caves. It's happened too many times to count. When lucky spawns gives the win.

Getting 3 A/S isnt luck at all its the complete opposite only way to counter is either leave all tomes (going around or on a highground with only 1way) or attack 1 team and wipe them out before they even double team your team. defensive playstyle is just bad

[Magic-Mal]

Getting 3 A/S isnt luck at all its the complete opposite only way to counter is either leave all tomes (going around or on a highground with only 1way) or attack 1 team and wipe them out before they even double team your team. defensive playstyle is just bad

How is 3 A/S spawning in your base area while everyone else is fighting on the other side of the map not luck???

[FreyaKrescent]

thats when you need to push Lol

[Ama_Hamada]

No its not lol



Getting 3 A/S isnt luck at all its the complete opposite only way to counter is either leave all tomes (going around or on a highground with only 1way) or attack 1 team and wipe them out before they even double team your team. defensive playstyle is just bad

I been on both ends, winning and losing by luck. First claim has an advantage. Also the cave GC has an advantage. How did this map even pass to be released?