Shatter

[Moonlite]

Yes matches ended faster but on Aether you would see games where last place would farm 400 points worth of kills and base ticks. If when tthey had lowered the score to 1600 and lowered the overall amount of ice points equally you would see more PvP.

Aether generally seems to have one team that under performs for whatever reason. You can see a lot of matches end 1600, 1500+, and ice still up. But yes if everyone is equal on other centers then its more an Aether problem then a mode problem.

[Evangela]

I agree. I'm a PvPer, not an ice beater. And when I lead people to fight, some people will complain. Some other leaders will lead a bunch of people to travel on the hills like a group of ice caravans. It's the worst FL mode ever made.

[dragonseth07]

I agree. I'm a PvPer, not an ice beater. And when I lead people to fight, some people will complain. Some other leaders will lead a bunch of people to travel on the hills like a group of ice caravans. It's the worst FL mode ever made.

I've lost a lot of matches because my group can't figure out that attacking the ice is important. Yes, killing people is fun. But, you know what else is fun? Winning.

[Evangela]

I've lost a lot of matches because my group can't figure out that attacking the ice is important. Yes, killing people is fun. But, you know what else is fun? Winning.

Sometimes, focusing on ices can cost you the match as well.

[Magic-Mal]

I've lost a lot of matches because my group can't figure out that attacking the ice is important. Yes, killing people is fun. But, you know what else is fun? Winning.

Destroy ice when it's okay to destroy ice.

If Flames have 1,530/1,600, Maelstrom has 820/1,600 and you guys have 1,250/1,600, its common sense to just attack the Flames. It's your only chance.

Most people like to huddle up at the A point or camp the base or something.. Or afraid to attack.



Although I happen to like Shatter more than Seize. Alot more. At least in Shatter the fate of your win is in your hands. But when 3 A ranks spawn in the caves(enemy base) in Seize.. yeah. It's over.

Let's not talk about the triple S rank...

[Synestra]

But when 3 A ranks spawn in the caves(enemy base) in Seize.. yeah. It's over.

You do know that is best scenario for you not for those that have 3 A's next to their spawn. Seize is balanced around pushing and defending so if you dont get tome near your base then you simply go and take enemys tome by force. It doesnt matter if its 24man or 72man one GC simply cannot defend 3 objectives at the sametime against 24/48 peoples, maybe just maybe if they are full premade.

[Dimitrii]

people are getting kicked for wanting to kill other players or using limit breaks on them and instead of ice.

This mode has even gotten me to not want to do frontlines anymore. People yell at you if you try to go for kills and not hit ice.

I haven't run into people like that yet surprisingly even though I completely ignore ice now as a Dragoon for the most part lol. Have not had anyone threaten to or initiate a vote to kick me nor even mention my tendency to ignore ice objectives at all in the party. But that might be because I'm freelancer now which pretty much automatically aligns me with Flames every match who are pretty well known for not caring about trying to win at all anyway. Before freelancer as a Maelstrom I actually would prioritize ice and winning over kills but as Flames the GC is so bad we arent gonna win anyway so may as well try and get some kills out of it.

[Magic-Mal]

You do know that is best scenario for you not for those that have 3 A's next to their spawn. Seize is balanced around pushing and defending so if you dont get tome near your base then you simply go and take enemys tome by force. It doesnt matter if its 24man or 72man one GC simply cannot defend 3 objectives at the sametime against 24/48 peoples, maybe just maybe if they are full premade.

When you are caught in a battle on the beach and 3 A's spawn in the caves, there is zero chance of you winning.

I'm talking about a really close match. Flames at 600/800. 3 A's spawn in the caves(instead of.. anywhere else).

Just 8 people can prevent the taking of a base. Just be defensive instead of offensive.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

This game mode entirely killed pvp, people are getting kicked for wanting to kill other players or using limit breaks on them and instead of ice. There's no fun in wasting CD's on ice anyways and breaking it in 3 seconds lol. I honestly think ice shouldn't give so many points because that would force people to actually pvp.

I've spoken on this quite a bit before. The thing is, there's no one way to win Shatter. That is both a good and bad thing about it. If you have a team strong enough to win through kills alone, go for it. If you can't get to large ice before the other teams do, you steal bases and pick off stragglers. You can even play a hit and run strategy against really aggressive teams and manage to win. Thing is, none of these will guarantee you can win, and only by being ready to switch up tactics when your enemy does can you stay ahead.

Simply put, Shatter is Chess, but most people just want to play Checkers.

As an addendum, please consider these useful, Shatter-specific tips:

NINs truly shine as a "Scouting" job here. Make use of that.
There are MANY blind spots. Make use of that.
Casters do 50% less damage to ice, so at large ice spawns, have your casters cc/attack the enemy team
Fight all you want, but make sure you have an escape route to pull out if necessary, or when ice spawns.
Between each base and the middle is a choke point. Use that on both offense and defense when necessary.
Keep your map open and watch enemy movement. When you know where they are, you know where they aren't.
Play the objectives in Shatter. No seriously. Play Shatter. All your damage/kills mean nothing if you don't win.

[FreyaKrescent]

i just wish people would stop running away