Shatter

[Geologo]

Suggestion to make pvp > pve in Shatter:
They should make big Ice pulse while it is active, any player "hitted" (no damage) by its wave will gain a crystal stack debuff, it can stack up to a max of 3.
When you kill someone with crystal stack, your party gain 3 additional points for each stack.

It would be nice if near the name will appear the shard/crystal/cluster icon depending on how many stack you have (like for medals).
Obviously it would need an adjustment of max points to win.

Another possible lazy fix for it:
Make the ice pulse and give a 10% vulnerability to all the players in 30y range.

[FinalHades]

#removeshatterfromthegame

[loreleidiangelo]

Freya? Why did you name-change and suddenly start typing in chat speak??? I remember going up against the AU premades in Slaughter, but you guys sold the FC I thought and all mostly quit the game.

[Chevronone]

Lol kicked for killing people in shatter? Do they not know that battle fever makes you do more damage, and get faster LB's? Do they not know that killing people gives you points, and stops the enemy from hitting the ice in the first place? Do they not know that killing a battle fever gives you more pts than killing a small ice? And takes those points off the enemy team?
My pre-made goes around killing people rather than hitting ice, and we win more often doing so :P
So many people completely ignore you while running to the ice on their mounts (that then heavys them, when they get hit) that it makes the kills easy.

Are you speaking in tongues? What is this sorcery?!

[Rilasha]

Geez, I haven't run into those types of people... Must really suck.

[Moonlite]

I am sure that in chat they were probably wonderful. On Aether moat teams just suck up the loss and no one generally complains about anyone. But someone who feels the need to voice disgruntledness more then a couple times usually gets shown the door. Also you can have getting kills and someone just chasing around trying to get kills and not help the team at all. Luckily frontlines has a votekick option for players that have differing playstyles.

But they actually made the mode less pvp by changing the score to 1600 from 1800. Making ice more valuable. While kills help it is just as easy to win the game without killing anyone. I thnik all the games I have had where the team has had no kills have been wins. Also helps when you stack brds and mchs and have no blms and smns.

[Rilasha]

But they actually made the mode less pvp by changing the score to 1600 from 1800. Making ice more valuable. While kills help it is just as easy to win the game without killing anyone. I thnik all the games I have had where the team has had no kills have been wins. Also helps when you stack brds and mchs and have no blms and smns.

The score change from 1800 to 1600 was there to make the games end quicker so it doesn't drag out as much as it used to. There's a lot of differences between the JP and NA meta of Shatter. There are usually less kills (due to healers being on point, not that people aren't fighting) on Elemental (my home data centre) that lead the game to a 1500-1500-1500 scoreline as the last ice is killed. My experience on Aether is that the people who kill the most tend to ignore the objectives more while the teams that do the objectives don't kill as much and there are far more blowout games.

Though I have had many games where the team that kills the most kills around objectives and so they win. It's all about balance between killing players and killing ice, with killing players allowing you to kill ice in an optimal situation.

Elemental also doesn't care as much about job meta, so we see plenty of BLM/SMNs and less BRD/MCH than on Aether.

[Geologo]

Considering that a big Ice give 300 points, if all the 54 DPS and Tanks are hitting ice (2 healers for each party),
any player will earn +5,5 points from the ice,
so if someone score a kill in that timeframe he get +5 and the opponent party -5

I think that someone have to realize that

[Evangela]

Considering that a big Ice give 300 points, if all the 54 DPS and Tanks are hitting ice (2 healers for each party),
any player will earn +5,5 points from the ice,
so if someone score a kill in that timeframe he get +5 and the opponent party -5

I think that someone have to realize that

Not only that.

If you destroy the whole team of the opponents, they'll be forced to retreat or respawn, then the ice will be yours.

[AdamZ]

Considering that a big Ice give 300 points, if all the 54 DPS and Tanks are hitting ice (2 healers for each party),
any player will earn +5,5 points from the ice,
so if someone score a kill in that timeframe he get +5 and the opponent party -5

I think that someone have to realize that

That is a break even, which is what you are saying, you move up 10 points relative to the other team with the kill. But that is 5 points for damage to ice your team gets, that the other team does not, so also Net 10.

But the damage scales better on ice then you need to kill someone. If I get a Zerk double fell with full swing up, so 6 gcd's (building stacks), I do around 11-12 points of damage on small ice. for a net swing of 22-24 points. Those same gcds would also generally be the min needed to get a kill, and ice can't be healed.