Shatter

[aeoncs]

I think we can all agree that even the arguably best frontline, which one doesn't even matter, is mediocre at best, generally speaking - too much RNG, boring and/or frustrating objective control and map design etc.
Let's just hope that whoever designs the new frontlines for Stormblood is somewhat familar with what kind of PvP game modes are fun to play for most players.

[FreyaKrescent]

when a whole alliance run past you while you being in the middle of them.. tells you somethings wrong

[FreyaKrescent]

a whole enemy alliance that is.

[Exira]

Oh, wow, an 8-man-premade can farm and completely dominate PuGs. What a shocker.

Maybe i failed in my intention. What i meant was : you can actually win shatter by doing pvp modt of time , im discussong agains these ppl who yell in chat things like "focus objevtive only" "stop pvp" " you are giving enemy free win" when the result ( especially if u play premade ) is delete enemy points and feed your alliance . This things of objevtives is burning ppl mind , its common to see 1 ally at 1450 being ignore by another ally who has 800 points but keep foccusing ice instead of fight the 1st gc.. this happen cuz ppl share this stupid meta of " ice only "

[BlackroseMiyagumi]

This mode has even gotten me to not want to do frontlines anymore. People yell at you if you try to go for kills and not hit ice. They are so into ice, that a team is at 1500 and instead of going and fight them, they go "camp" the next big ice spawn, which is useless since match ends before it even spawns. If you are fighting and an ice pops, even a small one, people just leave and go towards ice. At least in slaughter/secure the interceptor nodes would fight back, gave lil points, gave buffs and forced the teams to fight each other. Seal Rock forces the defending and capturing of tomeliths so more fighting. This one.... you can run past by people in your mount cause ice is up and you stopped existing... no need to a be a NIN and hide, ice is your hide...
--EDIT--
Let's not forget, since ice has increased magic defense, a person like me who mains blm/smn is better off attacking others than the ice. Idk you, but I think it's better to hit someone for 5k fire IV than an ice for 2k...

[aeoncs]

Maybe i failed in my intention. What i meant was : you can actually win shatter by doing pvp modt of time , im discussong agains these ppl who yell in chat things like "focus objevtive only" "stop pvp" " you are giving enemy free win" when the result ( especially if u play premade ) is delete enemy points and feed your alliance . This things of objevtives is burning ppl mind , its common to see 1 ally at 1450 being ignore by another ally who has 800 points but keep foccusing ice instead of fight the 1st gc.. this happen cuz ppl share this stupid meta of " ice only "

Well, in that case I agree. It's just that most people think focussing on Ice is the safer option, which is true I guess, especially in the 72-mode - but it's also the much less fun and less rewarding option. But when you queue solo or with just 2-4 people you kinda have to go with the flow, which is full objective focus nine times out of ten.

[loreleidiangelo]

I think we can all agree that even the arguably best frontline, which one doesn't even matter, is mediocre at best, generally speaking - too much RNG, boring and/or frustrating objective control and map design etc.
Let's just hope that whoever designs the new frontlines for Stormblood is somewhat familar with what kind of PvP game modes are fun to play for most players.

I will 100% agree with you on this. Have my Like.

[FreyaKrescent]

its getting worse each day

[Synestra]

But when 3 A ranks spawn in the caves(enemy base) in Seize.. yeah. It's over.

You do know that is best scenario for you not for those that have 3 A's next to their spawn. Seize is balanced around pushing and defending so if you dont get tome near your base then you simply go and take enemys tome by force. It doesnt matter if its 24man or 72man one GC simply cannot defend 3 objectives at the sametime against 24/48 peoples, maybe just maybe if they are full premade.

[Dimitrii]

people are getting kicked for wanting to kill other players or using limit breaks on them and instead of ice.

This mode has even gotten me to not want to do frontlines anymore. People yell at you if you try to go for kills and not hit ice.

I haven't run into people like that yet surprisingly even though I completely ignore ice now as a Dragoon for the most part lol. Have not had anyone threaten to or initiate a vote to kick me nor even mention my tendency to ignore ice objectives at all in the party. But that might be because I'm freelancer now which pretty much automatically aligns me with Flames every match who are pretty well known for not caring about trying to win at all anyway. Before freelancer as a Maelstrom I actually would prioritize ice and winning over kills but as Flames the GC is so bad we arent gonna win anyway so may as well try and get some kills out of it.