Leveling up through PvP - Thanks <3

[Preypacer]

My personal stance: I'm not a fan of PvP..though on other games i indulged if i was feeling like it. at least they are giving you the choice, unlike different MMO's (Aion i'm looking at you). I just hope they don't make the mistake of putting one type of player on a pedestal, while the other gets the s**t end of the stick. PvP or non-PvP, no one should have to lose out on content i guess.

But speaking on the side of what i know will be said: If i don't PvP all day and a guy just walks out of an arena with gear or rewards just as good as mine when i took however long to get face-rolled by Ifrit and orges and the like..on top of leve or xp grinding..i'd be pissed.

If history is any indication, some among the hardcore PvP camp will be demanding better rewards for a variety of reasons, including but not limited to:
- They deem themselves superior players just for preferring PvP and, thus, deserve superior rewards by default
- They will argue that PvE'ers or "carebears", as I'm sure all non-PvP'ers will be referred to once word gets around, don't deserve good rewards because PvE isn't as challenging as PvP.
- They'll insist that "PvP is what MMORPGs are all about and so that's where the best rewards should be"...

I know there's more, but that's what I can remember off the top of my head.

I enjoy PvP myself and have played a number of strictly PvP MMOs. However, thank goodness it's going to be sectioned off into its own areas in this game. FFXIV is a PvE MMO first with PvP as an option... that's all it should be.

Of course, that's something else some among the "hardcore PvP" crowd will certainly be complaining about. It's just not "real PvP" unless it's wide-open and they can attack anyone, anywhere at any time. Then, they can go into the newbie areas to gank and harass all the low level players while they're questing, take all their stuff and then stand over them gloating at how uber they are for killing the equivalent of a level 3 mob when they're level 30.

Killing players far weaker than themselves makes those people hardcore after all.

Yes, that last statement was entirely sarcastic.

[Wolfie]

Ironically, Preypacer, PVErs say the same things about and do the same things to PVPers when they get the opportunity.

[RemVye]

If history is any indication, some among the hardcore PvP camp will be demanding better rewards for a variety of reasons, including but not limited to:
- They deem themselves superior players just for preferring PvP and, thus, deserve superior rewards by default
- They will argue that PvE'ers or "carebears", as I'm sure all non-PvP'ers will be referred to once word gets around, don't deserve good rewards because PvE isn't as challenging as PvP.
- They'll insist that "PvP is what MMORPGs are all about and so that's where the best rewards should be"...

I know there's more, but that's what I can remember off the top of my head.

I enjoy PvP myself and have played a number of strictly PvP MMOs. However, thank goodness it's going to be sectioned off into its own areas in this game. FFXIV is a PvE MMO first with PvP as an option... that's all it should be.

Of course, that's something else some among the "hardcore PvP" crowd will certainly be complaining about. It's just not "real PvP" unless it's wide-open and they can attack anyone, anywhere at any time. Then, they can go into the newbie areas to gank and harass all the low level players while they're questing, take all their stuff and then stand over them gloating at how uber they are for killing the equivalent of a level 3 mob when they're level 30.

Killing players far weaker than themselves makes those people hardcore after all.

Yes, that last statement was entirely sarcastic.

Umm... what?

As a self-procalimed hardcore PvP'er I've never heard of any of this stuff. The only thing I would ever complain about is balance. As long as they maintain balance and make adjustments I don't care if PvP is open world, in your neighbors backyard, in a coliseum, on a separate zone, whatever.

PvE = Carebear? What, first time I've heard this... sounds pretty girly and lame. You should probably assume you can turn PvP off or it will be exclusive to PvP areas since we didn't have a choice to join a PvE or PvP server. So there is no chance for a level 50 to roflstomp a level 3. And even if that happened... you're not going to be able to steal there gear.

Of course there is going to be PvP rewards, whether its in the form of good pvp gear, aesthetics, titles, money.. whatever. I'm a PvP achievement skank, I'll aim for the top and /flex when I get there.

People have no logic.