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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerad3993 View Post
    I'm leaning towards you trolling at this point. I don't believe anyone is this upset over such a minor thing, and you're jumping from subject to subject, losing credibly each time. Dude, quit caring about what other people are doing with their time and gil. Especially if they aren't in your FC, on server, or your friend.
    Def not trolling Im just not understanding why people feel like they earned something when they didnt even do it. If I go unsync in an instance I could literally stand there and not do anything if I have two friends and I can be on auto attack and the instance will be over within two minutes.

    I dont troll, but I also have no understanding for players wanting things that just simply may not be in their league that is myself included, I would never buy a clear. If it was a way to report someone for selling a clear I would do it , has no business in the game, why should everything be equal it shouldn't be. Its a thing called more time invested, a better skill set, knowing the right people, etc. There are levels to game play and because there are levels then if you cant take the heat then stay out of the kitchen the game has plenty of content for everyone, and everyone shouldn't have access to things that the top preforming players do in game have.

    What is wrong with this if someone is in college and they make all Fs should they get a degree just for enrolling no they shouldn't so its the exact same thing in this game the fact that someone has 10 likes for commending buying clears is just sad. Its nothing wrong with playing how you want , Ive told you several times that I play how I want, but that being said does not mean that you should have access to every reward in the game. This isnt a little league soccer team where you get trophies for just being on the team.





    I can not make any more replies but to your point I like to take my time the game was intended to be a time sync. And I simply see the reward for content buyers as, the clear itself, and think that the good stuff should be off limits

    And also I will restate I will not troll , dont have time for that , I seriously mean what I say Im not on here to just be rude and waste time , To me if you just want a clear then fine it says cleared green check mark on your completed quest, If you knew what actually earning something meant then you wouldnt take a reward that you didnt earn.

    Its so funny to me that you are still going on about me milking the game for time spent more so than worring where I am in the game, I dont care about progression I just want to have fun and play the game I said that I am talkin about all content. Who is buying clears in old content when you can unsync it , Im talkin about the current stuff as well Im talkin about anything. look at my profile everything is at 50 are above its because I milked the game to have things to do I have yet to even do a 60 dungeon leveled from grinding because its fun to me. Not because I was to afraid to get to hw, if people like to take their time that is nothing compared to those who want to be entitled to buy a clear because they cant do it by any other method.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    This isnt a little league soccer team where you get trophies for just being on the team.
    That is exactly what the gaming industry has become in the last 10 years, so idk where you're getting that idea.
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  3. #83
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    You can't "do the content as intended" anymore, because there have been nerfs, and you are not going in with no idea what to do and with gear that barely meets requirements. 40 ilvls has a big impact. See A1S. it dies in 3 minutes now, it was a 9+ minute fight on release. and thats lvl 60 content.

    Same with Ravana.
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  4. #84
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    You say that people deserve to be rewarded for their skill, well, selling clears is a way of these people making rewards (gil) from their skill, it goes both ways.

    Personally I'd never buy a clear, it's just not how I work, but it is a market that is very rewarding for those who sell it, and for those with the desire to buy it, it also gets them what they want.
    Bear in mind there are many different people who play this game, much of the player-base really doesn't care for hardcore content and that's okay, but when this player plays for glamouring, and they REALLY want a piece of glamour from the latest raid, they don't care about raiding, but they do care about that glamour, so they go and buy a clear, nothing wrong with that. They get their glamour piece, the guys selling it gets gil, everyone's happy.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You can't "do the content as intended" anymore, because there have been nerfs, and you are not going in with no idea what to do and with gear that barely meets requirements. 40 ilvls has a big impact. See A1S. it dies in 3 minutes now, it was a 9+ minute fight on release. and thats lvl 60 content.

    Same with Ravana.
    Ok well this goes back to my thread I posted earlier in the week, if it was that simple then where is my extreme roulette then. Being 10 levels over , with triple hp , and triple damage id say is 100 percent difference than doing something 40 item levels over.

    The very reason unsync is a thing is not only for the speed but its also to empower you enough to where the chances of a wipe are essentially none existent, Im pretty sure you can go into A1s now que up 20 times and at least five out of those times could end in failure because you arent so op to the point that you will absolutely have a chance of gettin past the content. What unsync does is pretty much give you a 90 percent assured chance of gettin pass that nasty hurdle of doing something sync.

    Thats why people wait , thats why people farm after its so old and that they can get their cake walk. Unsync will open up the door far more than , sync and a nerf, unsync makes it open to 100 percent of the player base, nerfs you still have to have skill. Nerfs to the old primals still leave a 75 percent chance of failure in the duty finder so no nerfs are just not the same its different sure, but its not like it turns something hard into cake walk content.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD View Post
    Noob question, but what is a "clear" and what is meant by "buying them?" Is it clear prisms? "buying" Clearing a duty?
    Yes.

    Answered above.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
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    A majority of what you are complaining about you 1) have admitted you weren't here for originally 2) you've stated you are behind on because you "play at your own pace your way". It's an irrelevant complaint. None of what you are saying holds any merit based on all of your replies to people in this thread. I think you're trolling. You are constantly contradicting yourself. Why are you even complaining if you don't care about being caught up and are purposely keeping yourself behind at "your own pace"?
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  8. #88
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    Paying for clears... this is why my FC has built enough steam and built up some amazing members who I'm glad to call friends. We ran clears for free for newbies. Sophia for instance all I saw in PF were 8 mil + for clears... we just said "eh, join our group and get good" - cleared em and they ended up becoming some of our most amazing members and friends to this date. I'd rather be poor and in great company than selling content I never owned in the first place and looking like a jerk for it.

    It's because I have amazing friends that it makes the experience of wiping enjoyable. On discord, we laugh, poke at each other but get frustrated. Not at one another, but the situation. We're in it together. I think a lot of people forgot what that can be about... I've never seen "pay for clear content" in any other MMO. If it exists... well, same opinion there. Still dumb. I wouldn't be as good as I am if it weren't for each of the people I've met in game who had the same goal as us.

    If you're going to pay for an easy win, you learn nothing. I'd rather hit my face into a wall 30 dozen times learn with each wipe, no matter how long it takes than pay someone and learn nothing. You may as well be one of those people who buy their accounts/achievements on eBay.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
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    All fair points but it seems TC is specifically talking about content that is dead/used for WT... I thought he was originally talking about current content, but from his replies it seems he isn't even fully caught up still...

    Also, 8m for Sophia is indeed ridiculous . That was by far the easiest EX primal I've ever done, since Shiva.
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    Player MaikoRaines's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerad3993 View Post
    All fair points but it seems TC is specifically talking about content that is dead/used for WT... I thought he was originally talking about current content, but from his replies it seems he isn't even fully caught up still...Also, 8m for Sophia is indeed ridiculous . That was by far the easiest EX primal I've ever done, since Shiva.
    If TC is having issues and his FC isn't keen on helping, there's the PF since it's now geared towards Data Centers. Or find a brand new FC with people that fits your needs. As for Sophia - yeah it was ridiculous. Zurvan's being offered at "discounts" that I could see. My group was like "ok. Lets learn it and get others cleared" I'm sure I've ticked off a few people/FCs for our free clears already. I want to buy a mansion for my FC someday, but not off others backs like that.

    Stigmata (of the non religious kind) with familiar members is paramount to any team based game. You build up strategy and form muscle memory.
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