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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Honestly.

    It's just getting annoying now. Why do I have to be stripped to the bones every single time I want to craft something on a different class? Why can't my gear just scale down accordingly? If you ask me, it was better before patch 1.19.

    As long as the UI shows me what stats I'm losing out on (and now it does), that is suggestive enough for me to want to wear something else, but also not imposing enough that I HAVE to wear something else. The optimal rank was flexible. This new system is just flat-out punishing. It's more punishing than fatigue.

    Can I have fatigue back? I'd rather have fatigue back than this.

    And the mannequin system isn't a solution because A) It's 1.5 years away and B) just give us optimal and favoured back instead.

    I couldn't even wear a R18 dagger as a R15 gladiator merely because i wasn't high enough for it. I mean really... really... It was the lowest one available in wards so I had to buy a dated one which was a few ranks higher because i could actually WEAR that one.

    So in conclusion: bring back optimal/favoured system.
    • It was a progressive step for an MMO where you are constantly changing classes.
    • It was also much better than restrictions because it allowed you some flexibility to play the way you wanted and also look the way you wanted
    • Restrictions are punishing
    • Restrictions make you buy stupid stuff from the wards


    Just leave restrictive gear for AF stuff or something. There's no reason to get all crazy and heavy-handed about restrictions just because the polls suggested players wanted some restrictive gear. It's really not balanced at the moment.
    Because you shouldn't be wearing Level 50 gear at Level 1. Optimal gear only exists for aesthetics now; gear with stats that matter should be required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liminality View Post
    Because you shouldn't be wearing Level 50 gear at Level 1. Optimal gear only exists for aesthetics now; gear with stats that matter should be required.
    Why shouldnt you be wearing Lvl 50 gear at Lvl 1? If it scaled appropriately, there would be no reason to wear it at lvl 1, but you would still have the option.

    Im allowed to wear the gear on all my R50 classes, so ive earnt the right, and yet as soon as I equip a fry-pan I can't wear my gear anymore? You telling me everytime I cook dinner I have to strip naked? Everytime I pick up a knife, I have to strip naked?

    You're crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Why shouldnt you be wearing Lvl 50 gear at Lvl 1? If it scaled appropriately, there would be no reason to wear it at lvl 1, but you would still have the option.

    Im allowed to wear the gear on all my R50 classes, so ive earnt the right, and yet as soon as I equip a fry-pan I can't wear my gear anymore? You telling me everytime I cook dinner I have to strip naked? Everytime I pick up a knife, I have to strip naked?

    You're crazy.
    You're a lazy tool. FFXI has had this system for YEARS. Works fine and no complaints. You still have your dated gear with "Optimal". Wear that and stop the QQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    You're a lazy tool. FFXI has had this system for YEARS. Works fine and no complaints. You still have your dated gear with "Optimal". Wear that and stop the QQ.
    Your post will get a lot of likes, because this community likes to like posts like yours.

    But anyway. Couldn't you argue that FFXIV had a optimal/favoured system for a year and it worked fine. No complaints.

    Maybe you should have taken your own advice and stopped "QQing" when you had the chance before you helped encourage the devs to ruin a perfectly good system.
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    Last edited by ellohwell; 10-18-2011 at 05:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Your post will get a lot of likes, because this community likes to like posts like yours.

    But anyway. Couldn't you argue that FFXIV had a optimal/favoured system for a year and it worked fine. No complaints.

    Maybe you should have taken your own advice and stopped "QQing" when you had the chance before you helped encourage the devs to ruin a perfectly good system.
    I never QQ'd about it. I just don't care. It works fine and I've had no problems. I get naked when I change jobs? Fine, I'll put on other clothes. I haven't found this stressful at all. Mostly just... familiar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    I never QQ'd about it. I just don't care. It works fine and I've had no problems. I get naked when I change jobs? Fine, I'll put on other clothes. I haven't found this stressful at all. Mostly just... familiar.
    It's not just about being stripped naked though.

    It's about flexibility and freedom.

    It's about a system that scaled according to your level and class being a good, progressive feature which made FFXIV a leader in the industry rather than a follower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    I never QQ'd about it. I just don't care. It works fine and I've had no problems. I get naked when I change jobs? Fine, I'll put on other clothes. I haven't found this stressful at all. Mostly just... familiar.
    i don't mind the new restricted system. but with all the dated stuff in the wards and all this waiting for the new gear to be crafted. i think the restriction's should have waited till 1.20 to let the new stuff fill the market wards first. i have found it quite hard to find a belt for my lv and infact only found one that was not dated 2 nights ago. and i have needed it since 1.19 went live. but now the market wards are starting to fill this problem is becoming less and less

    (oops didn't mean to reply with a quote that is a miss click)
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    It's better the new way. Makes more sense. People actually have to buy things now and we get to see some variation on the field rather than lvl12 wearing the coolest/best gear for lvl50. Thank you YoshiP your a genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxsik View Post
    It's better the new way. Makes more sense. People actually have to buy things now and we get to see some variation on the field rather than lvl12 wearing the coolest/best gear for lvl50. Thank you YoshiP your a genius.
    How does it make more "sense" ?

    If it made sense I would be able to do what is logical. In the real world you can wear anything, but you might not have the skill to yield it to its full effect.

    if a mage equips R50 plate armour at lvl1, he will be gimped because it does not favour his class and also because he is far outside optimal range, and also because he is sacrificing gear slots which might otherwise be filled with something more useful.

    If he wears plate armour within his level range, he might get some of the defence stats to help him solo, but will still be sacrificing the gear slot which might otherwise be filled by something to help him DD/cure more.

    Optimal system was genius.
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    I hope that this confusing situation is only temporary, because of the new and old recipes still live together... Maybe this will be fixed or corrected in 1.20.
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    Last edited by Enma; 10-21-2011 at 09:46 AM.

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