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    Ashley Zeibel
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    I just wonder why some people bashing the optimal system simply consider that everyone is so incredibly dumb they aren't able to choose the correct gear just because the game doesn't lock them out of choosing the "wrong" one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    I just wonder why some people bashing the optimal system simply consider that everyone is so incredibly dumb they aren't able to choose the correct gear just because the game doesn't lock them out of choosing the "wrong" one.
    Because unfortunately the community of any given game, much like real life, is composed 60/40 (being generous) of morons/not-morons. Required Rank/Class gear would be like if product warning labels actually physically restrained someone from doing stupid things. It keeps most people from making stupid decisions they otherwise would have. Even with this system, people will still choose the wrong gear but at the very least they'll have class/level appropriate equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterytaru View Post
    Because unfortunately the community of any given game, much like real life, is composed 60/40 (being generous) of morons/not-morons. Required Rank/Class gear would be like if product warning labels actually physically restrained someone from doing stupid things. It keeps most people from making stupid decisions they otherwise would have. Even with this system, people will still choose the wrong gear but at the very least they'll have class/level appropriate equipment.
    Then we might as well make Final Fantasy Mystic Quest Online if we are going to remove features just because there's room for error.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuga View Post
    Name an upside to "favored gear" aside from "I don't want to switch gear/buy new gear every 5 levels" and "I want to look purdy".
    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    I like how (almost) everyone against the optimal level system only consider the extreme situations; Like I said, with the stats now working properly, no level 50 conjurer will be wearing gladiator gear for any reason besides town aesthesics, simply because it will suck.

    Let's use some different examples, shall we?

    - A level 35 GLA could upgrade his level 30 weapon for a level 37. heck, he could even max the spiritbond for that weapon and, as he reaches level 37, materialize it and meld it with another L37 weapon as he reach the proper level.

    Then, he reaches level 38 and thinks "hum..I'm a bit bored, gonna rank up my PUG now" and switches to his L32 PUG. But *gasp* the only gear he has with him right now are L35sh....no problem, it's just a bit weaker for the time being.

    A bit ahead, he finds a mining node. Being a R40 MIN, he switches classes and goes for a quick mining session. However, he failed to notice an aggressive monster, who attacks him...but he didn't have all his gear stripped due to changing classes, it just became less effective, but still effective enough to soak up some damage and allow him to run away.

    And he did all that without stressing over his inventory with 3 entirely different gear sets just to do such trivial activites! This, was / is the beauty of the optimal level system. I know I will miss those times.
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    Thumb up for new restriction system, now I have to carry 3 different crafting gear sets.
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    Firon Veleth
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    This thread makes no sense since there is still optimum gear in the game that's not dated so i don't get the point of this thread....
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    The merchant that I got my bow to switch to archer from only sold arrows that require level 8 to use. :|
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    OP, why are you still replying? The second post in your thread has quadruple the 'likes' of your original post. Take a hint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
    OP, why are you still replying? The second post in your thread has quadruple the 'likes' of your original post. Take a hint.
    You are referring to that post calling me a whiner?

    Of course that would get more likes than my OP. It doesn't surprise me at all. It is the nature of those on this forum to like such posts. After all, people on this forum like to call other people names rather than discuss issues in a civil manner.

    The only hint I take from the second post in this thread is that people will disappoint you.

    This isn't even a discussion between me and such people anymore. This is me telling them what's correct, and they're just not it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras View Post
    OP, why are you still replying? The second post in your thread has quadruple the 'likes' of your original post. Take a hint.
    "More people liked a troll post, so why is there even a discussion?"

    You're right, the people don't want discussion, they want flame wars. Let's all do that instead..
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