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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Your post will get a lot of likes, because this community likes to like posts like yours.

    But anyway. Couldn't you argue that FFXIV had a optimal/favoured system for a year and it worked fine. No complaints.

    Maybe you should have taken your own advice and stopped "QQing" when you had the chance before you helped encourage the devs to ruin a perfectly good system.
    I never QQ'd about it. I just don't care. It works fine and I've had no problems. I get naked when I change jobs? Fine, I'll put on other clothes. I haven't found this stressful at all. Mostly just... familiar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Your post will get a lot of likes, because this community likes to like posts like yours.

    But anyway. Couldn't you argue that FFXIV had a optimal/favoured system for a year and it worked fine. No complaints.

    Maybe you should have taken your own advice and stopped "QQing" when you had the chance before you helped encourage the devs to ruin a perfectly good system.
    Ooooh Crap.... lol obvious troll.... ~.~
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Your post will get a lot of likes, because this community likes to like posts like yours.
    We like to like posts that we agree with? Yeah, that's generally how it works...

    The majority of people prefer required level over optimal level. That's why there's less people agreeing with you. It's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    But anyway. Couldn't you argue that FFXIV had a optimal/favoured system for a year and it worked fine. No complaints.
    I've seen lots of complaints from non RPers that it's a bad system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Why shouldnt you be wearing Lvl 50 gear at Lvl 1? If it scaled appropriately, there would be no reason to wear it at lvl 1, but you would still have the option.

    Im allowed to wear the gear on all my R50 classes, so ive earnt the right, and yet as soon as I equip a fry-pan I can't wear my gear anymore? You telling me everytime I cook dinner I have to strip naked? Everytime I pick up a knife, I have to strip naked?

    You're crazy.
    As much as I agree with you, you're fighting a losing battle here. Most people can't handle the freedom of the optimal system. Also they get easily butthurt over level 1s wearing their uber phat lootz, it makes them feel less special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Why shouldnt you be wearing Lvl 50 gear at Lvl 1? If it scaled appropriately, there would be no reason to wear it at lvl 1, but you would still have the option.

    Im allowed to wear the gear on all my R50 classes, so ive earnt the right, and yet as soon as I equip a fry-pan I can't wear my gear anymore? You telling me everytime I cook dinner I have to strip naked? Everytime I pick up a knife, I have to strip naked?

    You're crazy.
    Because then why even have any gear at all? Why not just get a single set, or just sets for aesthetics, and your stats scale regardless of what you're wearing?

    You're crazy if you think making gear scale to such a high degree is a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Because then why even have any gear at all? Why not just get a single set, or just sets for aesthetics, and your stats scale regardless of what you're wearing?

    You're crazy if you think making gear scale to such a high degree is a good idea.
    It doesn't have to be a linear scale.

    If you're within 3 ranks it could be a close approximation to the optimal stats, and if you're upwards of 5 ranks away, then the stats should get exponentially worse. This would strongly encourage people to wear other gear, but at the same time it wouldn't be:
    • Imposing rules
    • Stripping them naked
    • ruining their ability to play dressup
    • limiting roleplay
    • limiting Solo armory-system builds
    • discouraging them from repairing people
    • discouraging them from attaching materia for people
    • frustrating them with constant gear swap-outs

    Anyway, there are games where gear is entirely aesthetic and it has slots (like materia) which determine stat make-up (i.e. blade and soul), so I don't see why you act like it's beyond belief to suggest sometime far less extreme.
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    Last edited by ellohwell; 10-18-2011 at 11:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Because then why even have any gear at all? Why not just get a single set, or just sets for aesthetics, and your stats scale regardless of what you're wearing?

    You're crazy if you think making gear scale to such a high degree is a good idea.
    Just make the scaled gear not as effective as wearing an appropriate gear, and give proper penalties (IE: High) when wearing stuff way out of the league. "We" ain't asking to wear any gear at any level and be a badass, we just are asking to be able to do things like my earlier example: To be able to do trivial activities without having to switch entire gear sets just because I changed from my level X class to my level X-5 one
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Why shouldnt you be wearing Lvl 50 gear at Lvl 1? If it scaled appropriately, there would be no reason to wear it at lvl 1, but you would still have the option.

    Im allowed to wear the gear on all my R50 classes, so ive earnt the right, and yet as soon as I equip a fry-pan I can't wear my gear anymore? You telling me everytime I cook dinner I have to strip naked? Everytime I pick up a knife, I have to strip naked?

    You're crazy.
    QFHumor&T.
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    Formerly Rounnin Tiankeris of Kashuan; reborn as Yongdi Washou of Hyperion.
    May we continue to walk in the light of the crystal and restore Eorzea to its former glory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    You telling me everytime I cook dinner I have to strip naked? Everytime I pick up a knife, I have to strip naked?
    You don't like to do this?

    I learned that having a wood when doing these things can result in some well done {Galkan Sausage}.

    So, yeah, what does it matter? Just make macros, friend.

    My 1 Gil is worth more than your 1 Gil.
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