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  1. #21
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    Aviars's Avatar
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    Aviars Lightsworn
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    Being unable to tell people they aren't in a stance is upsetting. That and you see tanks taking the defensive buffs and you kind of just die inside, knowing you can't tell them that it is wrong.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvOP View Post
    Hiding in your own safe space will only make the inevitable encounter with frustrated people even more horrible because you haven't had exposure to it. Sometimes people give advice while frustrated. Sometimes people just vent their anger, but when you see that stuff enough, you filter it in your mind without paying any attention to it. That said, learn not to give a damn. Do NOT reply "toxic" talk, ignore it.
    It can make competitive modes in games intimidating, but you need to remember that it really is just talk. A fist in your face hurts and you have reasons to not get used to that. Words hurt only initially, but you get used to it.
    Exposure is key to coping with all challenges of life.
    I love you. This is what I do. In reality, the chat is toxic the minority of the time.
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    Rem Minase
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trotsky View Post
    I've noticed some players have been campaigning to bring the chat back to The Feast, so I thought I'd offer a counter opinion. I actually like it much better this way. Now, I realize the PvP crowd has already readied their pitchforks, but I would like to plead my case nonetheless.
    I just came out of a game with you. You need chat. 100%. You literally do NOT understand the medal system, you had 2 medals at the end of the game to the point EVERYONE had stacks except you. Unfortunately, I couldn't tell you mid game what an utter fool you were being but spam get medals while jumping up and down next to them. And you just walked by them. So no, it's not better without chat.

    Please go read this page: http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...sden/thefeast/

    And learn the medal system.
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    Last edited by Yoruno; 01-23-2017 at 05:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoruno View Post
    And learn the medal system.
    https://pvpaissa.com/article/feast-heavy-medal-edition - A brief guide I wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleanse View Post
    Thanks marshal.
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  6. #26
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    Huan Yllis
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    Goblin
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    Competitive Play

    I can't agree with disabling chat in the feast. As a fairly inexperienced healer, I need to let others know what I know and I need to hear what they have to say. I a team wants to be aggressive then I need to know. I need to say "I'm out of MP, PvP Raise, Purify, going to Attune," etc. And macros? Please. Toxic players exist everywhere there is the Internet, that's human nature. You don't know what to do, look at guides and practice via custom matches. It's what I do.
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  7. #27
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    Choco Feru
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    Losing the chat on The Feast was one of the worst mistakes ever made in PVP. There's more hate now than before, because new players will never be able to learn.
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    Februs Harrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by kensatsu View Post
    You can blame SE but at least blame the offenders too.
    That's not exactly fair, though. It's true that this was caused by a few bad apples who abused the chat function, but that's not a valid precedent for SE's response. The thing is, SE isn't distributing this as a punishment for trash talking. If they were, I don't think anyone would be complaining. What they're doing instead is censoring the game to prevent trash talk from happening in the first place. That's the equivalent of throwing someone in jail on the suspicion that they MIGHT commit a crime. Such policies would normally be considered an extremely heavy abuse of authority and fundamentally wrong.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoFeru View Post
    Losing the chat on The Feast was one of the worst mistakes ever made in PVP. There's more hate now than before, because new players will never be able to learn.
    just played against you bro mlg benediction during my burst I thought I got you for sure :P hope to see you more in feast.
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    Ama Hamada
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    This, even though I know nothing about LoL, but I agree with the post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wegente View Post
    League of legends' in game chat is far more toxic at times. Yet I don't think Riot has ever even thought of removing the chat completely; instead they added an option to mute the toxic players and report them at the end of the match, so that if they keep going with their bad attitude they will eventually get banned.

    Removing the chat completely is the easy way-out, but not the right one.
    and:
    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    Yes, we've all had those matches where players constantly keep on typing instead of fighting but they are few and far between.

    Without Feast chat, we cannot co-ordinate attacks, we cannot even give a simple detail that can end up winning the match; every Feast match is different, no matter how many phrases Square puts into it, there will still be frequent moments where you think "I wish I could say this".

    The Feast is not better without chat, the Feast without chat is a free-for-all with no strategy.
    There is always a chance of having premades enter randomly in randoms and have chat outside the game. Using range or magic DPS LBs can be helpful, talking about who to focus on:
    Quote Originally Posted by Exira View Post
    It's clear that the Op never played a Diamond/plat game in the feast , the chat is always the key to win , not by sitting and typing but Personal macros : my Melee telling me im going to burst mark 1 so we can go burst together / tell some1 u are the next 1 who gets medals / healer who says in case there is no mch brd that he has to die cuz he is out of mp / telling your team that some opponent has a lot of stack ( yes sometimes people can't see it fast) / telling your team enemy healer has no attunment/ purify .. These are just some example , the trashtalking is not a valid argument to completly destroy a game mode
    also having the person below 100 to pick up some medals, there was one match I was trying to get medals so my team did not have as many people with large stacks and I couldn't.

    As I said before PvE DF is more often toxic then PvP, just likely people complain more about PvP, in Pve people just expect you shut up when you are being harassed and say nothing to the person doing it.
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