About Global Servers / グローバルサーバーについて

[DNO]

You delight in things Japanese enough to name your character with a Japanese honorific (sensei) and then want nothing to do them. That doesn't add up to me. Life is about bridging differences, not exacerbating them.

By the way, don't fool yourself into thinking he is doing it to give you what you want. He is doing it to entice JPNs to stick around, for which he will reward them with the opportunity to get the heck away from the Americans. This has nothing to do with any country other than JPN.

But, just like a child that refuses to try something and then once he does decides it's his favorite thing to eat, a little coercion can go a long way.

First off no where did i say anything about not liking them. I said i want single speaking servers. stay on topic.

/this is all

Edit: im sorry i must finish.

How am i a child? i played f11 on global servers for 6 years troll. I asked in the first post for SE to give people the choice to play with JP or not to. So that means im willing to let you have your way and have mine.

Your a stupid troll who did not even read what i wrote. Anybody from ff11 will tell you "JP only" parties happened.

Read son read. Giving people a choice is not childish you dumba**. But forcing people to play how YOU want it is childish...troll

last time i speak to you have a nice day

[DNO]

Choice is always the best option imo.

LOL at force them to play with us, seriously ??!!

Its makes me laugh how SE can give us a simple choice and yet people will still complain.

THANK YOU THIS IS WHAT I SAID!!!!!

[Shipp]

As someone who speaks English and Japanese I'm greatly saddened by this news.

As the OP says, everyone in Japan will move to the Japanese-only servers. It's an inevitability. When that happens I will no longer be able to join random groups to do all kinds of content because NA players only do things with their own linkshells. I will no longer be able to engage in activities in Japanese prime time, because the "global" servers will be dead then. I will no longer be able to practice Japanese with people online while I play a video game I enjoy, despite living in America.

Beyond that, how will the support for the international features fare? Will they even bother updating the auto-translator if no one uses it? What's to stop them from closing down certain regional servers far into the future if the game is played mostly by people still in Japan?

I know this is hugely cliché, but as an "international" player, international servers played a big part in my sticking with FFXI for many years, and with nothing but English speakers on the "global" servers I may not stick with XIV. I'm sure the number of xenophobic Japanese players they'll gain/keep far outweighs the number of people like me though, so it's probably a fine decision for them.

And to everyone saying it will be a choice: you're wrong. You're just wrong. The vast majority of Japanese players will play on Japanese-only servers if given the choice, which will remove the choice for us to play on a truly global server.

See, them giving a choice and the JP players CHOOSING to segregate themselves does not take away your choice. Sure, it might be a dead server, but have you actually thought about why you want to play with people who very obviously do not want anything to do with you?

There was a neat chart put out by the FFXI team that showed how global servers allow there to be more people for you to play with due to the difference in peak times, not less. You're making the mistake of thinking that for every person who you can't communicate with, there is a reduction in the number of people you can communicate with and that's just not the case.

Most Japanese players from XI did not want to play with anyone but Japanese players. How exactly is having 400 Japanese on at prime time on my server helping me get a party when maybe a handful of them will be in my level range and only a few out of those people will even consider playing with someone who isn't Japanese?

I don't blame them, but as far as I'm concerned, if they don't want to play with me, that's fine. I don't want to be on the same server as people who are obviously not going to be willing to put aside the language barrier to XP. I was in JP parties in XI and as long as I would write a few Japanese phrases to show that I was trying, it was usually fine. However there were numerous times where I got, "JP ONLY" in response to a party request.

Also, when people say that JP people aren't used to the rude Americans, I have to wonder if they actually played XI. The few times where there would be a lone JP person filling the spot in our English party, as soon as one small thing would happen, they'd tend to blow up like someone who has worked a job for 20 years without a raise. Wipe or an accidental add? "YOU ARE WORST NA!" A friend had that happen to her party, and I saw similar in some of mine. Sure, the typical American teen might be more obnoxious than the typical JP teen, but from what I saw JP players were more likely to blow a gasket and blame the NAs.

[Platinumstorm]

Please give us English specific servers and the ability to transfer to these servers.

[Szabtom]

Why not support language/region specific party search for high lvl instances/dungeons only? I can understand that communication is critical there. Yoshi P talked about "wordless" server system for 2.0 in the design documents.
But with the regular behest, questing, crafting, etc activities you can get by absolutely well with the translator, so they could keep global / mixed language servers. I would hate to see Japanese players all gone...

[Tsukino]

See, them giving a choice and the JP players CHOOSING to segregate themselves does not take away your choice. Sure, it might be a dead server, but have you actually thought about why you want to play with people who very obviously do not want anything to do with you?

So...it doesn't remove my choice but "it might be a dead server?" Which is it? No Japanese players on a "global" server for a Japanese game means it isn't a global server. It's really pretty simple, and it was the entire point of the OP. They act like they're giving us a choice, but de facto segregation will take over and there will be no global servers.

Basically, the majority of Japanese players probably don't care one way or the other, but they will follow the other people to the language-specific servers out of convenience. Over time, as more people from specific regions choose to play with their friends, servers will become more and more segregated. You're thinking of it as "fine, I don't want to play with people who don't want to play with me anyway," but in fact most of them have no strong feelings about playing with you or not. The situation will be that a friend of a friend was a "JP ONLY" jerk and the rest were just pulled along for the ride.

You obviously didn't read my post if you're asking that question either. I party with Japanese players at least as often as with English speakers. In XI I ended up partying with them more for endgame things because NA players refuse to work outside their LS for anything other than EXP.

However, I understand that my experiences are different than yours because I can communicate without the auto-translator. It's very unfortunate that people get met with "JP ONLY" but that's just some jerks that shouldn't be able to ruin the only MMO with international servers for everyone. Just think of them the same as people who won't party with you because you don't have <piece of equipment> or <ability from other class>. Screw them.

Most Japanese players from XI did not want to play with anyone but Japanese players. How exactly is having 400 Japanese on at prime time on my server helping me get a party when maybe a handful of them will be in my level range and only a few out of those people will even consider playing with someone who isn't Japanese?

Because that's one handful more people than you had before in a non-peak time for your region (I'm assuming somewhere in NA but I could be wrong). If you play a game that only has NA servers and 100 people are online at 4:00AM, that's what you get to play with (of course there are further concerns of what they want to do, their classes, levels, etc.). If instead you're on a global server where there are 100 people from NA on at 4:00AM plus 1000 Japanese people who are on because it's 8:00PM there, even if 950 of them don't want to play with you there are 50 more than you'd have otherwise.

Edit: Sorry, added the second paragraph because I decided "de facto segregation" wasn't clear enough regarding an MMO.

[Tsukino]

First off no where did i say anything about not liking them. I said i want single speaking servers. stay on topic.

/this is all

Edit: im sorry i must finish.

How am i a child? i played f11 on global servers for 6 years troll. I asked in the first post for SE to give people the choice to play with JP or not to. So that means im willing to let you have your way and have mine.

Your a stupid troll who did not even read what i wrote. Anybody from ff11 will tell you "JP only" parties happened.

Read son read. Giving people a choice is not childish you dumba**. But forcing people to play how YOU want it is childish...troll

last time i speak to you have a nice day

The "child" in his analogy is Japanese players.

Why am I replying to DNO...

[Jinko]

The whole barely .5 ms you'd probably gain?

Its 300ms from the US or EU to JP in most cases, add that on top of laggy servers you are looking over 1-2 secs delay.

[Babydoll]

I will miss playing with the JP...some of the coolest people I have met on FFXI was Japanese. They were all very kind to me and easy to talk to.

[Gaijin]

First off no where did i say anything about not liking them. I said i want single speaking servers. stay on topic.

/this is all

Edit: im sorry i must finish.

How am i a child? i played f11 on global servers for 6 years troll. I asked in the first post for SE to give people the choice to play with JP or not to. So that means im willing to let you have your way and have mine.

Your a stupid troll who did not even read what i wrote. Anybody from ff11 will tell you "JP only" parties happened.

Read son read. Giving people a choice is not childish you dumba**. But forcing people to play how YOU want it is childish...troll

last time i speak to you have a nice day

The irony here being that you flare up (like a child) in response to an analogy that was referring specifically to the Japanese players (the child) being "coerced" to try something new: global servers (the food).

The further irony being that you tell the OP to learn to read, when it is clearly you with the reading comprehension problems, given that you could not understand from the post that it was not directed at you at all.