Please fix or remove housing!

[Evol]

Eh, you can get around that with an FC. And making houses FC only wouldn't have stopped people from getting multiple house either because of that.



I have six. Alts with access, not houses. Only 3 houses.

Firstly, I agree. RMT groups and greedy individuals - or even just individuals with a specific purpose, would just as easily have ranked up an FC on an alt to get extra houses. Even if they added a restriction to 1 house per FC, and only 1 personally owned FC per account; Someone would buy numerous accounts to get around this. But ya know what? A hell of a lot more plots would be available right now!

And with regards to your 6 alts and 3 houses: More power to ya, but you are only ever actually enjoying and present in one of those houses at a time. Even if you run multiple instances of the game, you are only ever sending input and interacting with one of those instances - and only one of those houses - at a time....

Meanwhile whole FCs and tons of other people don't even have one.

And you think that's fair? (Not expecting an answer, you obviously do - though too many people don't.)

[MomomiMomi]

And with regards to your 6 alts and 3 houses: More power to ya, but you are only ever actually enjoying and present in one of those houses at a time. Even if you run multiple instances of the game, you are only ever sending input and interacting with one of those instances - and only one of those houses - at a time....

Meanwhile whole FCs and tons of other people don't even have one.

And you think that's fair? (Not expecting an answer, you obviously do - though too many people don't.)

You used a pretty poor argument to try to say it's not fair. I'm not going to explain why, but suffice to say that it's clear it's coming from someone who doesn't actually participate in housing.

Yes, it's not fair. It's also not my problem. Ask Square Enix to provide more housing to you if you really want one. That's what you're paying them for, isn't it?

[Evol]

You used a pretty poor argument to try to say it's not fair. I'm not going to explain why, but suffice to say that it's clear it's coming from someone who doesn't actually participate in housing.

Well you are partially correct and partially not correct. Yes I do not currently participate in plot-based housing, though I have an apartment. I also was in an FC previously that had a medium and I got to do plenty with it. However, the leader of that FC and several of our members did not get along. So we moved into our own FC and lost the housing. That was an exception too, because I've been in several FCs with housing where I was not allowed any part of it other than to donate gil and purchase private chambers.

My argument is absolutely perfect - you have a hold on 3 houses. 3 of them. There are plenty of people and FCs who do not have one at all. Are you the reason for this? No, of course not. However, its still not fair. And regardless of any reason why you think you should get to have 3 houses all to yourself, whether it be gil farming (by using missions and gardening in all three houses), putting on plays for the community, whatever - there is nothing someone who get's to experience housing in its entirety can say, to validate what you just said. There is nothing about housing that makes it ok for you to have 3, while others have none. There is nothing you know about housing that I do not.

While your garden plots are maturing at all 3 houses, you're not even there. If you are, you are only at 1 of them at one time. This applies to any mechanic that comes with housing. Even if 3 individual players are all having a party at each of your 3 houses... YOU are only in one of them at a time.

So please, do explain it. Because those of us that do not understand that which you refuse to explain, are exactly the ones that are voicing our opinions and our concerns in this thread.

Yes, it's not fair. It's also not my problem. Ask Square Enix to provide more housing to you if you really want one. That's what you're paying them for, isn't it?

Though you voiced yourself in this thread, which was - believe it or not - explicitly created so that SE would hear us! So you're not telling me to do anything that I'm not already doing.

Maybe you don't like being pointed out for having 3 houses, but then again you're the one that decided to say so in a thread explicitly created to voice concerns about the unfair housing system.

It shouldn't surprise you at all.

[MomomiMomi]

While your garden plots are maturing at all 3 houses, you're not even there. If you are, you are only at 1 of them at one time. This applies to any mechanic that comes with housing. Even if 3 individual players are all having a party at each of your 3 houses... YOU are only in one of them at a time.

See, you're saying it's not fair because I can only be at one house at a time. But that implies that it's not fair for me to have a house if I choose not to be at it at all. That's ridiculous. It's totally fair for me to not be at my house, and most people who have houses are, indeed, not at their house.

[Evol]

See, you're saying it's not fair because I can only be at one house at a time. But that implies that it's not fair for me to have a house if I choose not to be at it at all. That's ridiculous. It's totally fair for me to not be at my house, and most people who have houses are, indeed, not at their house.

No, its not ridiculous. You see, the head-butt between our opinions right now, is that you are taking what I said personally. I did not imply that you shouldn't have a house if you choose not to be at it at all (though if you are never there, why DO you have one? That'd be inactive, and SE will eventually demolish your house for that. Obviously you won't sit in it all day...). I'm actually saying nothing of the sort.

I'm not saying you did anything wrong, either. Though it isn't fair, and you even said so yourself.

This thread isn't a complaint to you, its a complaint to SE - you are just the perfect example. You have 3 houses, you can't even enjoy all 3 in their entirety at the same time. Yet there are thousands - if not more - who don't get to experience, or even choose to not be at a house - at all.

See SE? See? Fix this, please!

[MomomiMomi]

No, its not. You see the head-butt between our opinions right now, is that you are taking what I said personally.

You did nothing wrong. But it isn't fair, you said so yourself.

This thread isn't a complaint to you, its a complaint to SE - you are just the perfect example. You have 3 houses, you can't even enjoy all 3 in their entirety at the same time. Yet there are thousands, if not more, who don't get to experience it at all.

See SE? See? Fix this, please!

I'm not taking it personally. I'm calling your argument absurd. I did say that it's not fair for me to own three houses. But it's not for the reason you gave.

I'm trying to help you here. Find a better argument.

[Evol]

I'm not taking it personally. I'm calling your argument absurd.

Actually, you are taking it personally. And you called an assumption YOU made, ridiculous - not an argument that I actually made, absurd. Please allow me to jog your memory (And mind you, my post was updated several times before you posted this reply...but anyway):

...But that implies that it's not fair for me to have a house if I choose not to be at it at all. That's ridiculous.

If you choose not to be at it at all, SE will demolish it after some time, and make it available. You are free to do what you want within your own restrictions. I never once said what you are saying I said. I even explained it in more detail for you in my 'finished' follow up post.

What IS unfair though, is that you have 3 of them, while others have no option of even having one. What makes me even more upset about it, is that you can't even fully appreciate all 3 houses at a single time, because your singular avatar is only capable of being actively played INSIDE OF ONE AT A TIME.

I never said you should have to give up your other 2 houses, but I do feel strongly that you should. However, there's nothing implemented to force you to do so. So do what you will.

I want SE to fix it, and that's just all there is to it. You aren't trying to help me by getting defensive, in fact its simply just another post that takes it off topic, points fingers. etc.

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Nothing is going to change the fact that players like you with 3 houses have an unfair advantage over others who don't even have the option for one. But again, this complaint isnt to you, its to SE. So please stop taking it personal!