Please fix or remove housing!

[Masekase_Hurricane]

They are paying for extra characters, so they should have the same restrictions as the main character. Nerfing in any sort of way is not the solution, SE fixing the issue and creating more houses is the solution.

[Evol]

They are paying for extra characters,

With entry level subscriptions you get 1 char per server, for a total of 8; In this case they are only consuming a single plot on a single server at a time, even if they own 3.

With standard level subscriptions you get 8 characters per server, for a total of 40. This allows players to have multiple houses on the same server. In this case it's a problem, because they could hold multiple plots on a server where there aren't enough of them to begin with. The nerf I'm asking for is with regards to this case, as by limiting houses to 1 per server - per account, this issue could be lessened.

In both cases, it still doesn't change the fact that they can only ever be present at 1 at a time. Why not just give all your alts access to the 1?

Its usually greed. They garden in multiple plots at once, send multiple airships out at once, at all 3 houses, to maximize return. And I don't feel there WOULD be anything wrong with that if SE made it possible for everyone to do the same thing. Not everyone will have that kinda gil off the bat, not everyone will have that kind of time to dedicate to the features. So there'd still be people who are more 'baller' than others. There's no reason to let people be locked out of this.

Some people pay for numerous accounts, but most aren't paying extra at all. Extra chars are simply included with their subscription.

...so they should have the same restrictions as the main character. Nerfing in any sort of way is not the solution, SE fixing the issue and creating more houses is the solution.

Nerfing is a solution if SE won't outright fix it. Though, I agree with that 100%. NERFING isn't what I want. I want SE to fix this.

[OliviaJ]

Honestly think once you have a house for a bit you might look back on this thread and realize it's way overblown. As a FC I do think there needs to be a solution and the only one I can think of is instanced housing. As an individual who wants to garden you can probably find a player that will lend their garden to you (I do this regularly). Workshop stuff, well. That's a tough one if you aren't part of a generous FC. As far as this and every other "housing needs to be fixed" thread it's turned into a have and have not's battle. With that, again I wish you the best of luck. Housing is fun!

[Evol]

Honestly think once you have a house for a bit you might look back on this thread and realize it's way overblown. As a FC I do think there needs to be a solution and the only one I can think of is instanced housing. As an individual who wants to garden you can probably find a player that will lend their garden to you (I do this regularly). Workshop stuff, well. That's a tough one if you aren't part of a generous FC. As far as this and every other "housing needs to be fixed" thread it's turned into a have and have not's battle. With that, again I wish you the best of luck. Housing is fun!

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I just can't understand where you are coming from. The point of this is to point out the unfair aspect. The point of feature requests and complaints is specific to have and have not arguments. Its the entire point of this forum, and the areas specifically dedicated to this type of talk.

I didn't log into the game, invite you to chat, and start complaining to you. I started a thread in the appropriate channel - and you attacked it. There is a chance that I'm misreading what you're saying in your last post - if so I do apologize, but I need to defend my opinion and my character.

I will continue to support this thread, that includes ensuring I comment on your degrading remark about what this thread really is. And naturally I won't be as stressed out for myself after I finally have a plot for our FC - but I still won't give up until the issue is alleviated for all or this thread dies.

If people stop posting to this thread, then so be it. But I urge anyone who agrees with me to voice their concern to SE. And don't let anybody's opinion stop you!



Thank you for the luck, though, I wish the same to you!

[OliviaJ]

I only jumped into this thread because of the sensational title that threatens something I enjoy in game. To summarize as a last post on this topic in no particular order:
1) I disagree with you
2) I believe the only oversight on housing was on the overpopulated servers
3) We don't know how SE is working on it in the future expansion
4) You are correct in saying that those of us with houses are not taking pity on those without (generalization)

and I will suggest that if you don't want to be attacked that you word your topics a little better. Have a nice day.

[MomomiMomi]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...9560946536893/

I showed everyone my greed, yes.

Now please get back to reasonably asking SE to fix the housing issue. Enough with the sensationalist clickbait.

I've argued for SE to fix this issue for a long time; over these past three years. So please, go on, but do it well.

[Clethoria]

I don't think it's unfair, and this was before I got my estate mind you, because apartments exist. Just like with real life you simply gotta wait for things meant for a select group to open up. I get it, fantasy video game. But there are some inconveniences that aren't that big of a deal.

Now. What I think would be truly fair is if each player, upon unlocking housing via requirements- got a free apartment space as per their grand company. Small, cramped, but still usable and can be worked with. Aion does this and their housing is even harder to obtain because of the way the marketing works. They have to pay rent, but over all it's not a bad place and the area is beautiful and maybe quadruple the size of a housing ward in XIV.

My favorite housing ever was in Wonderland Online. You got a tent. Get to crafting. Want a wall? build it. The whole thing. Want a wall paper? Screw nature, craft the paper. Get pigment from flowers and ink. Want stairs? Better chop those trees (after you make the axe, and that's after you go to the caves for iron ore) open a forgery to make the nails, mix chemicals to get the- you get the point.

[Evol]

I don't think it's unfair, and this was before I got my estate mind you, because apartments exist.

Apartments do not have gardening, apartments do not have workshops, apartments do not have airships. It's easy for you to say this now, because you have a plot.

In real life, if you got the money, its done. That's not the same in this game. I won't reiterate everything I've said up till now - feel free to read the whole thread...or not.

Select groups? lol, convo over.

HF

[Clethoria]

Apartments do not have gardening, apartments do not have workshops, apartments do not have airships. It's easy for you to say this now, because you have a plot.

Select groups? lol, convo over.

HF

All these flavors and you chose to be salty.

Your argument is literally "I want what everyone else has without having to work/wait for it. And because other people want to hold onto something they paid literal millions for, they're in the wrong."

[Evol]

All these flavors and you chose to be salty.

Your argument is literally "I want what everyone else has without having to work/wait for it. And because other people want to hold onto something they paid literal millions for, they're in the wrong."

Where is the saltiness? Please show me?

Referencing your own greedy and salty "I'm part of the select group others can't be a part of, that this content was intended for", is what shines the most here. What you are doing is called 'projection'. It is a form of denial. This isn't a thread designed for you and yours to plus each other's posts and tell everybody "boohoo". Of course its easy for you to say those ignorant things you are saying because you already have a plot. That's exactly why I said conversation over to you and HF (Have Fun). No, this thread is for the topic the thread is for. Which is to fix housing - you can start your own thread for "Please let me be the only one to have housing". Other than that, expect a reply from me to counter all of your arrogance, each and every time you let a little more of it out.

I'm pretty sure, I've waited quite long enough (Since early access 1.0). I'm positive, that I've put in more than enough work. I've already made it more than clear what this post is about and if you can't be bothered to read every post, yet still want to make baseless accusations and take things off topic - by all means, go for it.

There's something seriously wrong with the 3 of you that come in here knit-picking a sentence or two, fail to make a point other than "Yea we're greedy, and we don't care", and then think you've accomplished something. You are trolling. Every step of the way I've been nothing but nice - blunt, sure - but nothing but nice. It is you who decided to come in here, break out the word salty the second your greedy views weren't agreed with - and take things the wrong way.

But I will go ahead and humor your original reply to me. Who was the group housing was meant for? I'm pretty sure it was FCs and Players, and especially those who have the gil to purchase a plot (Just like me). I don't see anything that specifically mentions your name. EVERY player was the intended group. Get over yourself. Its been said before that this system will be expanded for more than just those of you who have a plot now, and a major goal of this topic is to have SE make that happen sooner - rather than later.

So as I said previously - Have Fun, this conversation (that is the one where I am needlessly responding to you, and in turn helping you keep this thread off-topic) is over.

Well, yeah...it's a game.

Would you also like to work a full-time job, have a mortgage and chocobo payment, and get pulled over by the Twin Adders for drinking a bit too much Realm Reborn Red? I wonder what property insurance rates are like in Ishgard...bet their policies exclude damage caused by dragons, primals, and acts of the Holy See.

Because I know I totally play this game to have fun in a world so much like the one I already live in.

So you read the whole thread, understood what this topic is about, and still chose to knit-pick that single sentence of mine? Trolls left and right. But ok, since you decided to pick on that single sentence, let's go ahead and dig into it!

* You know full well that there is an entire thought that that sentence stems from, whether you chose to read that whole thought or not is not my problem - but yours. If you wanna purchase the plot illegally, you certainly can get it done just like that in-game too (just as an example). Except ya see I'm not gonna risk losing my account. But hold on, there's more...

* Unlike you, I play this game, with an understanding that real life BS isnt gonna be there, other than trolls like yourself (now yes, I admit this one was a little salty ). To provide you with a full thought in one single paragraph; I don't expect to have to save for 6 years, to get a house in a game, because land is limited like it is in the real world. But good try using that argument.

* The rest of what you said is pure trolling.

Please stay on topic, please understand the full topic before replying, please do not troll.


Thank you.