Please fix or remove housing!

[Sylfaein]

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Careful not to fall off your high Chocobo there, bud.

You made a ridiculous statement, so you got a ridiculous response. Heck, this whole THREAD is you trolling with that asinine title. You did it for pure shock value.

I dare you to pull this same gag on the raiding community ("I can't get to end game raids, so SE should just remove them!"). Verbal evisceration would ensue.

Is the housing system perfect? No, but it's good, and they're improving it piece by piece all the time. Look forward to it.

Did I read your entire entitled rant? Enough to get the gist of it, but I also have a life to live, and a job to get up early in the morning for, so no, not every darn word.

Do what the rest of us did, and watch the housing districts. Every hour is a chance for something to demolish. I've now owned two different houses (I demo'd the first and moved close to my FC house, so no, I didn't have two at once, so don't get your smallclothes in a bunch), my husband has one, and my FC was able to get one the day we formed. We're not on a low pop server, and there's not tons of vacant lots sitting out, but houses do demo from time to time, and you can snatch one up pretty easily, if you're checking. Much like in real life, the early bird catches the worm.

[Sylfaein]

In real life, if you got the money, its done. That's not the same in this game.

Well, yeah...it's a game.

Would you also like to work a full-time job, have a mortgage and chocobo payment, and get pulled over by the Twin Adders for drinking a bit too much Realm Reborn Red? I wonder what property insurance rates are like in Ishgard...bet their policies exclude damage caused by dragons, primals, and acts of the Holy See.

Because I know I totally play this game to have fun in a world so much like the one I already live in.

[MomomiMomi]

My favorite housing ever was in Wonderland Online. You got a tent. Get to crafting. Want a wall? build it. The whole thing. Want a wall paper? Screw nature, craft the paper. Get pigment from flowers and ink. Want stairs? Better chop those trees (after you make the axe, and that's after you go to the caves for iron ore) open a forgery to make the nails, mix chemicals to get the- you get the point.

Haha, that did have pretty cool housing. Too bad I couldn't really enjoy the game much without friends.

Indeed, I would have liked something similar.

[Novalia]

I agree with the OP. The housing system is unfair, and SE needs to fix it. Such a shame, whenever someone finally speaks up about it, there's nothing but off-topic banter taking the focus off the real issue.

Let's not let this thread go to waste!

BUMP!

[Nicobo]

haha "remove housing" so fun. fyi many servers have a lot of empty plots.

btw it sounds like pls remove hunting if I keep missing the S ranks as it is unfair. ^^;

[Azurnia]

To be honest, it's supposed to be limited, that's what gives it value. Now I'm not saying this just because I have a house, I felt this way even before owning one and scrapping together every gil I could to get one when one opened up. I feel blessed hat I did, exited and ecstatic that out of the 720 houses in mists on my server, I owned one. I was 1 in 720 players(Fc's unbalance these numbers but the house still technically belongs to he fc leader so it's fine) to claim something in the game as 'mine'. Do I think every player should have the opportunity to get the chance at owning one, yes. And We do for the most part. It just isn't easy.

Now do I think we need more apartments? Yes, and in fact they could be a little bigger. And we should probably get an indoor planting box for farming to give players that access. Currently there is just not enough apartments, which quiet frankly, there is not any excuse for not having more. Seeing as each medium house can have 30 apartments if it's a fc house, than it really really isn't too much to ask for more of them.

Back back to my original point, owning land in this game is supposed to feel good. It's your own little chunk of ff14, a small piece that YOU own. It's limited accessibility is part of what makes it special, and if everybody just got one, than what would be the point? 'Party at my house?' 'Nah my house has all the same stuff, just come over here.' 'I don't need to come to your house cause I've got my own with all the same exact stuff!' And so on and so forth. If everybody owned one, then what would the point of making friends, renting rooms (I've seen a few rent ownership on plots, and I myself have a roommate, though he pays no rent XD), or hanging out at a medium or large fc house with your buddy? Hell, the original housing was ONLY open to fc's in the beginning, and players couldn't own any land for themselves, so it's some small progress. Is there still going to be problems? Yes, but that comes with the territory of availability. Not like it's accessible for every person in real life to own a home too anyways, most live in apartments or share houses with other people, so once again the game imitates life.

Do I wish for the system to get better for the players who wish to experience it? Yes. Do I want it to come at a cost to those who truly care, and love their houses and everything they stand for? No. Those are just my two gil though, what do I know?

[Sylfaein]

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Ah, but can you complete current raids through RF? Random groups aren't likely to finish the challenging raids, meaning that without a raiding FC or static, you'd have to be lucky to get completion. Much like housing. Admittedly, I should have been clearer (finishing the raid, rather than just getting in), but no one goes into a raid just to see the intro.

I agree whole-heartedly that the number of plots should increase. That said, I'd hate to see it go to instanced housing, unless that's a separate thing, and existing wards get to stay as they are. I've made most of my friends, found the FC that would later spawn the one I'm in now, and started my business all by being social in the wards. I've seen empty wards, but I have also know very lively ones, and I'd be sad to see that go. The banter between my FC and the neighboring one at our shared MB is just the best. It really does feel like a community.

[Eight]

If you have friends who have houses you can always and to become one of their tenants. They can give you permissions that give you everything owning a house has except you can't sell the house or change the house type (ie moogle house). That's always an option and I always offer it to my friends if any of them want it so they can use the house just the same.

[Damose]

I like housing. Just wish they would reimburse at least half of the cost of the lot upon losing it back to the owner. People are very busy and I believe lot foreclosure in ff14 is a way to keep people subscribed every month; even when they have no other game plans other than keeping their house active. When you know you'll run the risk of losing your entire lot with no recompense or refund, there is literally no way that you would allow your lot be recycled to other players and will continue to log in every 45 days in order to reset the foreclosure timer on your property. If there was a small or moderate housing refund for the player upon losing a property, a healthy number of players would be more comfortable letting there lot be recycled to homeless players. We need some incentive in order to keep the housing market dynamic and in motion.

[Damose]

I do feel the same as Evol though in some situations when I do not see available lots. Though I have more than enough gil, I feel like housing is a feature I wont be experiencing until the risks associated with owning a personal lot are minimized, and refuse to purchase even a small lot to this day. I have nightmares of the day I spend 20 million gil on a medium lot and learn I have to be working away from home over the next few months. When I first began playing, I began to amass a large fortune in the hopes that I may one-day participate in ff14's housing system. Now I am a confused gillionaire.