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  1. #601
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    The big thing I'm pointing out with the while thing is that the stances they use while fighting isn't the stance monk has been using and the style of their moves have their differences from monks as well. It's all well and good to say they're monks in that trailer but if they are monks then I would have to say they're re-doing monks style of fighting.

    If you've ever watched Yda when she takes up a fighting stance she's in the standard monk stance, not one of the stances they were using in the trailer for the girl. If both her and the guy in the trailer are monks then I would have to say that monk itself is getting an overhaul. The guy might be a monk but the girl is something different, she doesn't move or fight in the same type forms that monk does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    The big thing I'm pointing out with the while thing is that the stances they use while fighting isn't the stance monk has been using and the style of their moves have their differences from monks as well. It's all well and good to say they're monks in that trailer but if they are monks then I would have to say they're re-doing monks style of fighting.

    If you've ever watched Yda when she takes up a fighting stance she's in the standard monk stance, not one of the stances they were using in the trailer for the girl. If both her and the guy in the trailer are monks then I would have to say that monk itself is getting an overhaul. The guy might be a monk but the girl is something different, she doesn't move or fight in the same type forms that monk does.
    A few things though:
    1. It's a CGI trailer. They're not exactly known for their accuracy.
    2. They had to make MNK look cool. Since it's the focus. (Much like they did with DRG in HW)
    3. They are changing job/class structure. Maybe they're tweaking MNK. (This is really reaching though)
    4. The people who work on the game have already said they are both MNKs. Unless they're lying...

    As much as I like the idea of dancer... and trust me I loved DNC on FFXI (I rocked it)... I don't think it is being showcased in the trailer.
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  3. #603
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
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    Her stance is a mirror image of the WoL's in that trailer, the latter having already been confirmed to be a Monk there. You also see her using the Featherfoot animation, followed by a Snap Punch, and even Twin Snakes. All the extra stuff that's got people reaching is owing to the fact it's a CGI trailer attempting to promote the game, not an in-game render, so there's more freedom animation-wise in how they want to express things.

    It's one thing wanting Dancer in the game, that's fine, but the trailer leans far more to two Monks sparring (with the typical 'match your attack with the exact same move' trope) over an introduction to Dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    The big thing I'm pointing out with the while thing is that the stances they use while fighting isn't the stance monk has been using and the style of their moves have their differences from monks as well. It's all well and good to say they're monks in that trailer but if they are monks then I would have to say they're re-doing monks style of fighting.
    The guy might be a monk but the girl is something different, she doesn't move or fight in the same type forms that monk does.
    It's a CGI video. Of course it isn't going to look like they took in game footage of 2 Monks PvPing in Wolve's Den. That would be boring and offer no hype. The only noticeable animations that are exactly in game are shoulder tackle (1:18, WoL) and featherfoot (1;20 Lady in Red). The guy is a Monk and so is she: Freeze at 1:08 and check how they share the exact same stance. The only difference is their characterization lol. If she is "something different" than a Monk, then so is he. That is how similar they are.

    Do you guys want to argue her gender too? XD
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    If anything that trailer could be two Monk's and actually depict a change in their play-style. Maybe less reliance on Greased Lightning and more about weaving between Hand to Hand combos and kicking combos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lufir View Post
    It's a CGI video. Of course it isn't going to look like they took in game footage of 2 Monks PvPing in Wolve's Den. That would be boring and offer no hype. The only noticeable animations that are exactly in game are shoulder tackle (1:18, WoL) and featherfoot (1;20 Lady in Red). The guy is a Monk and so is she: Freeze at 1:08 and check how they share the exact same stance. The only difference is their characterization lol. If she is "something different" than a Monk, then so is he. That is how similar they are.

    Do you guys want to argue her gender too? XD
    This is just what happens when trailers are released, and people are allowed to let their imaginations run wild lol. the in-depth speculation of a cgi teaser trailer is hilarious. Like seriously. IF dancer was even going to be a new job in the game, why would they actually showcase it in the teaser trailer at the same time they are announcing the expansion itself?
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  7. #607
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    I have seen either in this thread some where or it was a similar thread that they had said during the fan fest the guy was a monk but had never said who the girl was. Now just recently someone has said that they said both of them in the video were monks, either someone had missed them saying both were monks or someone is assuming both were said to be monks. Now if both of them are monks which one of them is the one wearing the new monk artifact gear they had said the monk was wearing in the trailer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    Now if both of them are monks which one of them is the one wearing the new monk artifact gear they had said the monk was wearing in the trailer?
    The guy.

    Which means the girl is wearing whatever she wanted to wear, like what we can all do in the game, since we are in-depth analyzing a CGI 2 minute teaser trailer that wasn't meant to tease anything but the expansion itself.
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  9. #609
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    I didn't watch the fan fest so I'm only going off what people have said was anounced during it in concern to stormblood. Just because they didn't show case new jobs in previous teaser trailers doesn't mean that they won't ever do it.
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    People still think it's Dancer? Wow I thought people got past that already. It's 2 monks get over it. Do you really want Dancer just to be another monk? Also they have never promoted a new job in a CGI trailer from what I can remember so why would they suddenly throw a dancer in there now... Also to the people saying about what she is wearing have you thought that a NPC has unique clothing? I know crazy because its almost like every scion besides papalymo and Yda has personal clothes which players don't have due to being a important NPC.
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