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  1. #591
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    Damien Belmont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Honestly I would be fine with 2 DPS this expansion then next expansion have Healer and Tank. I don't think they are in a really good position to add a new healer after AST especially when AST is basically a sch and whm in one just not as strong. Tank they could maybe add but I don't want them to add it just so they can combat Warrior due to it most likely feeling very lazy.
    You have a point on that one. However, I am worried that by adding 2 dpses they will end up pushing tanks and healers further into the minority, especially during the first months of Stormblood. Also keep in mind, RDM is not a support class according to Yoshi; meaning that it won't offer as much utility as it will simply offer an extra dps option. Thus, this all feels like bloating the DPS spectrum and adding no tank/healer won't really help in the long run imo.
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  2. #592
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    Lufir Lumini
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBelmont View Post
    Personally all I hope is that we will get another tank in Stormblood. The possibility of getting only two jobs and both being dps kinda annoys me.
    I think SE will do the right thing and give us a tank. They have to right? XD
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  3. #593
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    Amalon Starfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    We know he's a MNK. I think she is, too, in part because I suspect her appearance would have coincided with the job announcement if she were a Dancer.
    The reason I think she is a dancer is because of how she moves and fights. If you watch her she moves in an elegant dance style martial art, I won't rule out that she could be a monk.

    The guy could be a monk but just with the way he is dressed with the leopard print sash thing and his feather collared vest reminds me of a berserker. His stance is different from monks as well with where his feet are placed. His attacks also seem to be a bit more brutish and powerful than a regular monks, it looked like he also preferred more of a frontal assault than doing positionals like monk.

    Those are just my reasons behind why I think they're a dancer and berserker. I could be wrong of course but time will only tell, what gets revealed at the next fan festival?
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  4. #594
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Yoshi-P said the Monk was wearing the new AF for 4.0. He didn't say who the lady was, but since they fight using similar moves, she is most likely a monk as well. Its a CG trailer, its going to be flashy and different lol.
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  5. #595
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    Taryn Holigard
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    Those are just my reasons behind why I think they're a dancer and berserker. I could be wrong of course but time will only tell, what gets revealed at the next fan festival?
    The first fan fest it was said 4.0 will be focused on MNK. It was also said the derp of light in the video is wearing the new MNK AF. The girl is most likely Yda, or Yda's sister. Yda is a MNK, but maybe her sister is a dancer or a MNK with special abilities. Her identity is yet to be revealed, but that's where the MSQ is going imo.

    As far as her shoes (from another poster) they just look near eastern to me. I don't think they're special dance shoes. But who knows.
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    Last edited by TarynH; 01-13-2017 at 11:39 AM.

  6. #596
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    Tietra Elm
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    dunno about you guys, but compare this to the trailer's supposed "dancer" girl, and since "Ivalice" and "Ala Mhigo" are pretty much the same concept:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UooQvKEc1sQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMgCckRqfo - around 1:20

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra6Kq3YWdu8 - plus this clip from her main game

    - ignore the weapon

    i think they're going for the (penelo) -Ivalice- type dancer in this.
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    Last edited by Ralts; 01-13-2017 at 02:51 AM.

  7. #597
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynH View Post
    The first fan fast it was said 4.0 will be focused on MNK. It was also said the derp of light in the video is wearing the new MNK AF. The girl is most likely Yda, or Yda's sister. Yda is a MNK, but maybe her sister is a dancer or a MNK with special abilities. Her identity is yet to be revealed, but that's where the MSQ is going imo.

    It's no surprise stormblood is going to be based around the monk job class because it's taking place in Ala Mhigo. The guy in the trailer could very well be a monk in the new AF using a different fighting style. The girl tho I'm still thinking she's a dancer, at the beginning of the trailer she was dancing into various stances and pose's in more of a martial art style. While sparing with the guy she still maintained the graceful dance style moves.

    Look at heavensward for example it was based around the dragoon job class, but what did any of the new jobs that were released have in common to dragoon?
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  8. #598
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    Look at heavensward for example it was based around the dragoon job class, but what did any of the new jobs that were released have in common to dragoon?
    but none of the CGI trailers for heavensward showcased any of the new jobs, it only showcased Dragoon, the same way this CGI trailer only showcases monk.

    And none of the new jobs resembled dragoon in anyway, making them easily distinguishable. That's not the case here. The guy and girl are so similar in fact, we can't even come to a general consesus that it is indeed a new job, and that the new job is Dancer. most still believe its a monk because its the obvious choice since the trailer was just meant to be a cgi teaser for the announcement of Stormblood.

    Its all good and well to speculate, i just wish people would keep the reaching to a minimum.
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  9. #599
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    Katana Azurite
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Honestly I would be fine with 2 DPS this expansion then next expansion have Healer and Tank. I don't think they are in a really good position to add a new healer after AST especially when AST is basically a sch and whm in one just not as strong. Tank they could maybe add but I don't want them to add it just so they can combat Warrior due to it most likely feeling very lazy.
    Casters/Monk is in as bad as a spot as Tanks, and to a lesser extent healers. AST and WHM do need some adjustments and are arguable in the worst spot out of all the roles, yet it shouldn't come at the cost of not adding a new job. Balancing is something natural, not something you get instead of a new job.

    But wait... their adding a new caster? Even in their current state? And most people want a new Melee even with MNK's state. See where I'm going with this? Their adding new jobs because these roles haven't had a new job in a while, Casters 100% deserve a new job even in their current state, and they'll probably undergo adjustments along with 4.0 and their new lvl 70 kit.

    Now I also think Melee's 100% deserve a new job... They haven't got one in a while. But what about Off Tank and Off Healer roles? I've been stuck on WAR for almost 4 years because of it's 'NEEDED' utility and Off Tank capabilities.
    And I know a lot of people will disagree and say something like "Well I think your wrong, there should be no such thing as an Off Tank and Off Healer role" but unfortunately for some people this is how Yoshi-P envisions the meta of tanking and healing. I personally like it, as I prefer to be the type of Tank who does a bit of everything like WAR, and I love it, MT constant Tanks aren't really my preference, I've done it in the past and can play it fine but it isn't for me, but I know some people enjoy it.

    The way I see it is, DPS/Tank in 4.0 and DPS/Healer in 5.0. You always want to introduce a DPS in an expansion due to it's high appeal to new players being the most stress free job (outside of raiding)

    TL;DR There are different type of play styles for Tanks (Main Tank, Off Tank) and Healers (Main Healer, Support Healer) just like there is for DPS (Ranged Support, Caster and Melee), and these different play styles also deserve new Jobs for their desired game play
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    Last edited by Katana190; 01-13-2017 at 09:19 AM.

  10. #600
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    Taryn Holigard
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmalonStar View Post
    It's no surprise stormblood is going to be based around the monk job class because it's taking place in Ala Mhigo. The guy in the trailer could very well be a monk in the new AF using a different fighting style. The girl tho I'm still thinking she's a dancer, at the beginning of the trailer she was dancing into various stances and pose's in more of a martial art style. While sparing with the guy she still maintained the graceful dance style moves.

    Look at heavensward for example it was based around the dragoon job class, but what did any of the new jobs that were released have in common to dragoon?
    She could be a dancer. Or it could be an NPC with a specialized dance-like fighting style. Maybe she's just happy. That's not to say that dancer can't be added later either. Like a certain NPC gave us ninja. I'm still sticking with it being Yda (or relation), and the fight style is unique to her... for now.
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