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    If a healer has time to stand around, jump around, emote, sit down, make a coffee while waiting to heal, they have time to help dps. If the tank is squishy and constantly dipping in health quickly, then go ahead and pure heal. If DPS stands in AoEs and goes down quickly, their problem. As a healer, it's a matter of laziness with dps. Time to lean, time to clean. If you can stand around for awhile, you can dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    If a healer has time to stand around, jump around, emote, sit down, make a coffee, waiting to heal, they have time to help dps. If the tank is squishy and constantly dipping in health quickly, then go ahead and pure heal. If DPS stands in AoEs and goes down quickly, their problem. As a healer, it's a matter of laziness with dps. Time to lean, time to clean. If you can stand around for awhile, you can dps.
    Then she can report the guy she told off for greifing via intentional killing of the gil turtle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    Then she can report the guy she told off for greifing via intentional killing of the gil turtle.
    With proof that he did it intentionally, she could.
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    With proof that he did it intentionally, she could.
    She already has proof. he is a DRK, which means he is required to have already cleared that guildhest before, and if you go all out fighting it, u cant accidentally be carried through it.
    He knew what the goal was, and they can see he killed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Stop. Just STOP. Stop spreading this around. Your own class quests tell you how wrong you are as a White Mage. They mock Selphie for having the opinion that a healer should only ever heal. When your own NPC trainers try telling you that you should really be DPSing, you cannot, and SHOULD not, pretend otherwise.
    She didnt actually say not to ever DPS, she said your primary goal is to heal, and only if its actually possible to heal and DPS, then you do it.

    Honestly when Im a healer, the ONLY people who ask em to DPS more, are always the tanks who are in a constant state of near death.
    Tanks who require little to no carry, seems to never ask for the healer to DPS. (Obviously I am already, so this only applies when someone else is healing, and they were telling me later they decided to DPS for once, because the tank wasnt dieing.)
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    Last edited by Claire_Pendragon; 01-11-2017 at 02:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    She already has proof. he is a DRK, which means he is required to have already cleared that guildhest before, and if you go all out fighting it, u cant accidentally be carried through it.
    Uhm, no - none of the guildhests are required for anything at all (excepting unlocking other guildhests of course.) AFAIK you can go through the entire game and do everything else in it without ever doing a single guildhest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Uhm, no - none of the guildhests are required for anything at all (excepting unlocking other guildhests of course.) AFAIK you can go through the entire game and do everything else in it without ever doing a single guildhest.
    There is one -- Hest of the Best is a main scenario quest that requires doing the turtle guildhest.

    Not saying the OP is right in their actions, but just clarifying that one does, indeed, have to do the turtle before getting access to Heavensward.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    The Guildhest quests were removed from the game sometime, probably during Heavensward. Now the main story asks you to kill some monsters in Mor Dhona instead.

    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/We...Morbol_Country
    Oh. Well nevermind me then.
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    Last edited by Powercow; 01-12-2017 at 12:01 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Uhm, no - none of the guildhests are required for anything at all (excepting unlocking other guildhests of course.) AFAIK you can go through the entire game and do everything else in it without ever doing a single guildhest.
    Lv50 MSQ from the patches between AAR and Heavensward 2.1 "Seventh Astral Era Main Scenario Quests" you'll see "Hest of the Best" which requires you to do "Hero on the half shell".

    This is a requirement to get to ishgard, and a requirement to unlock DRK.
    Ive seen my share of groups have just 1 person keep fighting the turtle, and its extremely easy for the to solo it till its dead, before it's put to sleep.
    (Usually the person is undergeared)
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    The Guildhest quests were removed from the game sometime, probably during Heavensward. Now the main story asks you to kill some monsters in Mor Dhona instead.

    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/We...Morbol_Country

    Edit: This page says it was 3.1 I've been through the Astral Era stuff recently on an alt so I can confirm you get the Malboro quest instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Lv50 MSQ from the patches between AAR and Heavensward 2.1 "Seventh Astral Era Main Scenario Quests" you'll see "Hest of the Best" which requires you to do "Hero on the half shell".

    This is a requirement to get to ishgard, and a requirement to unlock DRK.
    Ive seen my share of groups have just 1 person keep fighting the turtle, and its extremely easy for the to solo it till its dead, before it's put to sleep.
    (Usually the person is undergeared)
    That's old info - those quests have been changed and no guildhests are required any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Uhm, no - none of the guildhests are required for anything at all (excepting unlocking other guildhests of course.) AFAIK you can go through the entire game and do everything else in it without ever doing a single guildhest.
    Getting through "More than a Feeler" used to be required for progression. That was long before Heavensward came out.
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