Stupid reason to report someone

[Chiramu]

It was a stupid reason to report someone. Gameplay differences can't really be punished or enforced. Just because the tank believed you should be doing DPS doesn't mean any action can happen to you.
Don't dwell on it, everyone thinks differently.

[Vexander]

An old argument. Personally I don't think healers should be forced to DPS. That said, I see no way of changing the existing system to remove that requirement from Healers. Its almost mandatory these days to DPS as a healer in between heals. At the least I'd like to see it be made simpler. Have healer DPS spells scale up in damaged based on their MND stat and remove Cleric Stance.

[TarynH]

Have healer DPS spells scale up in damaged based on their MND stat and remove Cleric Stance.

I agree. Cleric Stance, and stance switching in general is dumb. Reminds me of FFXI gear swapping. It would be different if jobs were designed to do anything other than one role. Just take Cleric Stance out of the game, and base healers' damage on MND.

[worldofneil]

Have healer DPS spells scale up in damaged based on their MND stat and remove Cleric Stance.

Please no.

As someone who mains healer (usually White Mage) I like this part of the job as it adds at least a small challenge to it. Without this you wouldn't have to think about when you can/can't switch and the the job would become mind-numbingly easy. It would also break things like Assize where right now you can use it for big heals or big damage. Making it do both would be insane (and possibly unwanted if you don't need to do a massive area heal).

I also feel that healers shouldn't be able to just do damage without any consequences so cleric stance helps add a balance.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

I only think that healers need to DPS right when a monster is being a threat because of what type of creature it is and what attacks it has (AOE in cone, box, or circles). That way it's to quickly kill the target that will be a threat. Or when fighting a dungeon or raid boss and it is very low on health and everyone is healthy; or when a dungeon or raid boss is low on health but is going to unleash a devastating attack such as Odin.

[Insidion]

I sympathize with your situation of the other healer not performing their primary objective. It can be tough to predict what others will do in DF for sure, and that can certainly discourage one from trying to juggle healing and dps. Sorry you had a bad day! Cheer up!

[Amirya]

Don't worry if you don't like to dps as a healer. In the end, it's really about your comfort level in doing so.

Personally, I won't dps as a healer right away unless I know the tank, but I will start after a pull or two to gauge the tank's squish-factor. I know a healer who will not dps - at all - unless one of three people are the tanks - this healer will panic if the tank's health hits 70% (anxiety issues), and she'll too often run into DF tanks who don't know how to use a freakin' cooldown. I know another healer who will dps as a SCH, but not as often as a WHM, unless she's with a trusted co-healer. And yet another who bounces back and forth - but he mains as a tank and dislikes healing. And then there's the healer I know who will dps until the tank is at about 500 health, then pops a Lustrate/Tetragrammaton. (When I'm co-healing with this individual, I heal full-time, screw the dpsing.)

Certainly, if you have time to do something else other than overheal, you could get a couple of dps attacks off. Cleric Stance, 2 offensive spells, and back out of it.

[Train88]

It's not even about the DPS. There's 2 kind of people giving advice.
-The person who really wants to help a human player by making it's life easier.
-The bossy elitist who tells others he knows how to play better than them.

He was rued, I was rude, everyone was rude. Ban everyone.

[MicahZerrshia]

-The bossy elitist who tells others he knows how to play better than them.

I love the "I play how I want" type of argument when they call the other player a bossy elitest.

It normally comes down to efficiency and when you are taking a break, not doing anything and getting carried, even in something as minor as a guildhest, then you get nasty at that person who asks you to do something.

I think you are calling the wrong person an elitest there.

[Maddonious]

He cant technically report you for not dpsing as a healer just because you weren't dpsing. However he pry can report you based on how abrasive you became in your convo. If just really passive aggressive then no harm to you.

This doesn't gloss over the fact that you were so lazy as a healer in a guildhest that was so easy to beat that you felt you shouldn't dps for what reason? To keep the tank alive from high damage attacks? Yeah, no. Not in that instance you arn't pulling that excuse. The bottom line is you were afking in the guildhest and wanted a free ride and when someone called you out for it you got offended cause he gave you a reality check. You could have shaved off a min if you helped but decided to extend the instance taking that extra min away from the other 3 players.

I've seen many healers like you. The ones who only use a cure 2 every 20s and stand around afk the rest of the time. It sickens me that they think they have to do less work then the tank and dps have to put in because of heals alone.

How do you get through solo content with that mentality? Do you let your chocobo kill everything while you keep it alive the whole time? Do you always have to party up with other players like this is some kind of old school MMO where healers literally couldn't dps?

If you wanna (or others) wanna say healers don't have to dps and "Its fine if they only heal" I say that is a lie and it affects other players times. "Oh im still doing my job if I dont dps".......does the tank stop attacking when he has enough aggro to hold the mob and just sit there? I mean he is technically doing his tank job by holding adds but nothing ever said he was required to continue to dps once his minimum job requirement was fulfilled.
What about the dps who only does the worst possible rotation or spams one attack? I mean he is still technically dpsing so he is doing his job so you cant yell at him to dps more so you can pick up the pace of the dungeon. If the dungeon takes 1 hour do to complete due to the tank and dps meeting the minimum requirements you have no right to say otherwise as they were all doing their "job" to some degree.

Bottom line is healers are ment to dps when not in very dangerous situations. Any excuse you make up will be tossed aside by better players with arguments like mine about the tank/dps still "technically" doing their job.