Healing Magic Potency for non-healers

[Kosmos992k]

At very least, the actual effect of things like cure when used by a PLD, or other caster should scale in proportion to the level of the character. I'm not suggesting that non healers should beb able to heal half as well as actual healers, only that the relative performance of the spell maintains the same relative position it has at level 1 at level 30, 40, 50, 60 and beyond - make it scale correctly please.

I don't think thats even a discussion, like, there's a reason for someone to be a healer and also a reason why healers have the lowest dps, so if u are going to give dps and tanks more/better heals raise the stone 3, broil and malefic 2 potency to 300 so healers can ALSO be a hybrid job and while dps can heal a healer can dps properly

PLD is more or less explicitly a hybrid job with GLD and CNJ required to obtain it. Of all the different jobs, PLD has the best case for being some form of hybrid, or at least having better scaling of healing power.

[Moomba33]

I kinda like having those healing cross class spells. I've healed some low level instances as a Black Mage after the healer died or DC'd and they can be also be nice for solo instances and FATEs when you're low level.

I hope casters get a heal skill in Stormblood. Perhaps one on a long cooldown like Second Wind would be more balanced although it would take away the ability to be a pseudo healer in low level content.

[Pireco]

At very least, the actual effect of things like cure when used by a PLD, or other caster should scale in proportion to the level of the character. I'm not suggesting that non healers should beb able to heal half as well as actual healers, only that the relative performance of the spell maintains the same relative position it has at level 1 at level 30, 40, 50, 60 and beyond - make it scale correctly please.



PLD is more or less explicitly a hybrid job with GLD and CNJ required to obtain it. Of all the different jobs, PLD has the best case for being some form of hybrid, or at least having better scaling of healing power.

i disagree, a PLD can't heal at will since every clemency is 1/3 (maybe more, i havent played PLD in a while) of his mp, my concern is giving an acessible (low ocd or gcd) healing skill to non-healers

[Kosmos992k]

i disagree, a PLD can't heal at will since every clemency is 1/3 (maybe more, i havent played PLD in a while) of his mp, my concern is giving an acessible (low ocd or gcd) healing skill to non-healers

Excuse me, PLD is a hybrid Gladiator/Conjurer with access to cure. There is no reason for that spell to scale so appallingly, quite the opposite really since Conjurer is required for Paladin. Clemency was added to PLD, but as you point out it's more of an emergency heal due to MP consumption. But, even if you let PLD's Cure scale linearly with level it's never, ever going to compete with a real healer. It does however add more utility since it provides a lower potency heal than Clemency that can be used more frequently.

I'm all for distinguishing jobs from each other, but I'm also mindful of the job requirements. if CNJ is required to obtain a job, that does strongly suggest whatever job it is is a hybrid with conjurer (healer) capability. And yet before Clemency, PLDs healing abilities are terribly ineffective. I'm not suggesting that PLD or any other non healer should rival an actual healer for potency, flexibility or utility as a healer. But PLD in particular already has the worst DPS of any tank and certain issues with aggro. I see no reason why leaning more strongly on the hybrid nature of the job to increase PLD utility is a bad thing for anyone.

P.S. I main PLD and have WHM/SCH as my secondary jobs, and my partner is a pure WHM all the way. I'm in no way biased against healers nor do I want anything that would diminish their role.

[Pireco]

Excuse me, PLD is a hybrid Gladiator/Conjurer with access to cure. There is no reason for that spell to scale so appallingly, quite the opposite really since Conjurer is required for Paladin.

The things is, there are NO hybrid jobs int he game now, i guess we arent in the same page, hybrid in my conception is reagarding role, and PLD isnt hybrid in anyway , job requirements is something that is there since job system was implemented in ff and in ffxiv it means nothing but an adaptation to this game's design,so lets just agree to disagree.