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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    And I dont know if it happens in the expert roulette but in my experience if a tank is gona do a big pull please make sure that you get every single adds full attention. Alot of times this doesn't happen and a healer shouldn't have to heal themselves heal you , dps and dodge the adds that are trying to kill them.
    Tank here on how this happens: When I'm mass pulling, every pack gets a Flash on the run. I should tag everyone no problem. If that's all that happens, it'll all go smooth.

    The problem comes when people get overeager and don't let the pull finish. Remember that, in the middle of a big pull, we're not gonna stand in place waiting for another GCD, it's AoE on the run. So, if you start laying out heals on me before I have them all grouped up and can ACTUALLY establish aggro, you're gonna have a bad time. Trust in me to survive until I can get them all grouped up. My whole toolkit is about survival.

    Edit: Also Regens. That causes it a lot. I am always clicking off Regens during a big pull so that the healer isn't getting hate.

    Edit 2: Sorry, one last thing. Some trash packs are spaced out so wide that tagging them all at once can be almost impossible. In cases like that, rather than slow down the pull for a second GCD, I believe it's better to let the stragglers chase after the healer or whoever until the pull is over. Just keep running. Once the pull is done, run them to the tank so they can pull them off with AoE threat gen.
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    Last edited by dragonseth07; 01-04-2017 at 05:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    Tank here on how this happens: When I'm mass pulling, every pack gets a Flash on the run. I should tag everyone no problem. If that's all that
    I pretty much main tanks and healers palidan/drk, whm/astro now im not saying im the best tank in the world but for me if I see that I dont have aggro on an add even if someone pulled them I go back and get that add or at least try a lob or something if they are out of reach.

    But most of the time I dont really get the same from other tanks when Im healing some tanks dont try and pull aggro off of me even if it wasnt my fault to begin with and they just missed the add. And I learned about the regens I dont do them during pulls anymore not until the tank has all the adds they are gona get. But I just think some tanks expect you to heal them and if a stray add gets you ,kill that add and everything is suppose to be fine , and I dont get that because I tank also myself and Id at least try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
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    Tanks should absolutely go peel if something gets loose. Anyone who doesn't is a jerk. During a mass pull, though, sometimes it can't be helped, and you have to wait until the pull is over. Stopping a pull short to grab a straggler ends the pull: when you stop going, ground AoE's go down, so continuing after that is a no-no. If someone gets a straggler on them, they should run to the tank so they can pull it off. Nothing is more frustrating than trying to peel a mob and the guy it's on is running straight away from you.
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