Please lift glamour restrictions!

[Lilseph]

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Because you have several types of gear: Job related gear (AF gear), role related gear (Raid, dungeon gear, some tomestones'), miscellaneous gear (Pig outfit, chocobo outfit, moogle outfit, etc). They can all wear the pig outfit, it doesn't mess with their identity, it's for the giggles. However, there are defined rules based on tradition: blackmage shouldn't use a whitemage robe. Since Final Fantasy 1 (1987) Whitemage had their signature white robe with red triangles. I'm just giving this as an example. Later on, more jobs were added and their identity comes from the type of gear they are using. The bikinis, the pig outfit, the moogle attire, whatever that comes to your mind, are NOT tied to ANY identity of ANY job. You are mixing things up here.

2 years ago, Yoshi-p answered this here: CLICK ME.. As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, I'd be down to remove the restriction for generic looking gear, like some dungeons drops, as they are already swapped and re-coloured for other jobs. But certain types of gear should stay for the sake of tradition as this is, like it or not, a Final Fantasy game.

[bswpayton]

Because you have several types of gear: Job related gear (AF gear), role related gear (Raid, dungeon gear, some tomestones'), miscellaneous gear (Pig outfit, chocobo outfit, moogle outfit, etc.

Ok so how bout this , then would it be ok with you guys if for instance they only allowed us to glamour a certain amount of af pieces at a time like one or two max that would be compromise to me.

Because the smallest of some of these aesthetics are not that job defining, like the ops boots, or the second post the bards pants. I would like to wear those on another class they are just pants they cant be that specific and to me what he said is just messed up about casters how are you gona let a tank wear clothe and robes , but then a caster cant wear metal thats totally wrong imo. For a male character some of the caster gear isnt very aggressive looking so if I ran a healer or caster on a male character I would def be looking to have something that was more hardcore than the current options. But like someone else said the devs have changed their minds on certain things for mass appeal reasons and I don't see why they wouldnt go back on this one , and I think a compromise would be to not allow for the glaming of a whole entire set.

If people are still tripping at that point then they would be being stubborn because when I looked at the ops example I didn't instantly know that those where summoner boots. And tbh if they didn't wana create confusion on jobs then they should have never mailed out their first chocbo head as a vet reward, being a new player I was more caught off guard by where the hec did that come from than , a paladin in a robe. The devs kinda contradict themselves on this, if we are talkin about pure image and not what it says on the tag line by all gear accessible if Im using my own two eyes then, they have failed on keeping the identity intact on their jobs so why pretend as if allowing us to change this feature would be any different.

[ReplicaX]

Few use the artifact gear though so the only way you can tell jobs apart is by what weapon they have, and you're able to do that regardless of their gear. I get what you're saying even if I personally don't care.

It's hard to debate this when the last set of Artifact Armors were released in July of 2015. Usage is more popular when it is new and it was a more relevant choice for the content then actually gearing it.

[Wanzer]

Ok so how bout this , then would it be ok with you guys if for instance they only allowed us to glamour a certain amount of af pieces at a time like one or two max that would be compromise to me.

I know you really want some pieces from certain AFs, but... Still sounds like in contradiction with the dev team's idea, and what a AF is supposed to be.

If people are still tripping at that point then they would be being stubborn because when I looked at the ops example I didn't instantly know that those where summoner boots.

Well, i did. And i'm probably not the only one. It's not because you didn't know that means it's irrelevant. ^^;
But yeah, we are stubborn. Us. Not you, don't worry. I think i can live with that.

And tbh if they didn't wana create confusion on jobs then they should have never mailed out their first chocbo head as a vet reward, being a new player I was more caught off guard by where the hec did that come from than

Is that a reason ? I mean, between that kind of comparison and the jump potion, you seem really lost... Because it's totally off topic. :/
(unless Chocobo Mage was something, and that suit its AF)
And again, nobody said a mage couldn't wear an armor, most of us want more diversity, and it's totally possible without ruinning things around just for a piece or two.

[Miste]

You kinda are though. You care wether or not I dress my ast with smn gloves glamoured on, don't you? Never claimed the demand was popular. I just pointed out that SE change their minds about some things. If this demand became popular enough I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be willing to lift the restriction.

Well if you think you know me better than I know myself... wait no you don't...so again no I don't care what you desire to do; your desires are your own.

Caring what you want to do to design your character means that it would be a personal thing. It isn't. I've already said this. I don't care about your AST and your AST wearing SMN gear. I care that it abolishes the traditional lore gear which is supposed to be an iconic symbol of one specific job.

Also you cannot currently dress your AST in SMN gear...so how can I care about your AST wearing SMN gear when you cannot even do it at this present time?

I never said that they will never change their minds or lift it; I am not in charge of SE or FFXIV so how would I make such a claim. I just said I am not so sure the demand is popular...which is what I still think. Considering the FFXIV team seems, so far, to want to keep the FF series connection to FFXIV intact I personally doubt they will ever lift restrictions on job specific sets...at least not until the possibility that the staff changes drastically after people retire etc.

[MistakeNot]

I really couldn't care less that it means nothing to you. If that is your attitude, why should the devs care about your feelings towards the matter, or even remotely consider lifting the restrictions?

Your view of what defines jobs is just fine. Recognize though that it is not the same as the devs and longtime fans of the franchise. Aesthetics and identity is very important to the iconic jobs of the franchise whether you accept it or not. The world doesn't revolve around you.

The devs of FFXIV should care about my opinions for the same reasons they care about the opinions of other people who play FFXIV. My opinions about other FF games is nothing they should care about, since I do not have any such opinions.

I am sure other people have other opinions than me. That does not prevent me from viewing certain of those opinions as silly and quite illogical and unreasonable.

[Gemina]

The devs of FFXIV should care about my opinions for the same reasons they care about the opinions of other people who play FFXIV. My opinions about other FF games is nothing they should care about, since I do not have any such opinions.

I am sure other people have other opinions than me. That does not prevent me from viewing certain of those opinions as silly and quite illogical and unreasonable.

I never said they don't care about the opinions of the player base. I asked why should they care feelings of those who don't care about the franchise. Yes, this is FFXIV. However, this game pays many homages to past FF titles, and this includes the artifact armor. But it isn't even about that. I keep bringing up these things because there is clearly a failure to understand why some of us oppose lifting the restrictions so strongly. If you want to be dismissive towards those who feel this way, don't think you won't receive the same in return.

[Narthice]

I support this. I'm all for more customization. Though I would rather they revamp the whole glamour system, its a mess right now.

[Caitlyn]

I support this. I'm all for more customization. Though I would rather they revamp the whole glamour system, its a mess right now.

The glamour system is ok, but there is still much room for improvements. Like having more than one dyeable color or more slots for different items (for example: face slot which let you wear glasses AND a hat).

Job-specific gear should stay job-specific. But all other items should be avaiable for all classes/races.

[Narthice]

Like having more than one dyeable color

I'd love this too, but I think they already said that cant be done because ps3 limitations or something blah blah blah