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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    meaning it should wear Fending armor


    Oh yeah!

    Look at this. Give him a katana and he's sure to look samurai'y.

    While this is a heavy exaggeration surely you must realise that samurai would look downright silly in this games heavy armor. I vouch for Samurai to compete with DRG for armorclass. Mail suits a samurai better than plate in this game at least.

    I am fairly neutral (leaning towards tank. You guys have fantastic points on the subject) on the tank/dps dilemma currently raised i must bid you this: How about a STR tank a la WoW Brewmaster monk tank, that staggers the damage they recieve over time? That would be quite interesting in my humble opinion. And a non-plate tank? I really like that idea. Instead of having a large health pool it would instead have a stagger period, making it easier for healers to heal out large sums of damage. And of course a few methods of mitigating the built up "stag"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post


    Oh yeah!

    Look at this. Give him a katana and he's sure to look samurai'y.

    While this is a heavy exaggeration surely you must realise that samurai would look downright silly in this games heavy armor. I vouch for Samurai to compete with DRG for armorclass. Mail suits a samurai better than plate in this game at least.
    But... DRG wear equally heavy armor? Sometimes it looks even heavier, this arguement has never carried weight. Also if SAM is meant to start at 50 (like RDM) you won't even see them looking like this.
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    I bid you read the third line: "Heavy exaggeration" part again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    I bid you read the third line: "Heavy exaggeration" part again
    Yet in the same paragraph you mention them using DRG gear.
    DRG's armor might be branded mail, but you can't argue the fact some of it looks equally heavy or even heavier. Also some sets like the 24 man raid's share the same appearance but tanks get cloak or something additional.
    I could picture SAM wearing DRG gear easily, because I could also picture them wearing tank gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post


    Oh yeah!

    Look at this. Give him a katana and he's sure to look samurai'y.

    While this is a heavy exaggeration surely you must realise that samurai would look downright silly in this games heavy armor. I vouch for Samurai to compete with DRG for armorclass. Mail suits a samurai better than plate in this game at least.
    Because DRG gear is

    So


    Much


    Better


    Your argument is completely bunk the moment you suggested it share gear with DRG. Because 90% of HW DRG armor shares it's look with Tanks, and what few unique sets it has, actually look heavier than the tanking equivalent.

    But hey, if you'd rather Samurai wear this instead of this then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


    How about a STR tank a la WoW Brewmaster monk tank, that staggers the damage they recieve over time? That would be quite interesting in my humble opinion. And a non-plate tank? I really like that idea. Instead of having a large health pool it would instead have a stagger period, making it easier for healers to heal out large sums of damage. And of course a few methods of mitigating the built up "stag"
    Mechanically it's fine, the problem that comes with it is itemization. Currently all tanks share gear, this is an intentional design decision to both cut costs in terms of gear design, but also because it allows Tank players to gear mutliple tank jobs at the same time, allowing them a certain kind of flexibility in that they can almost seamlessly switch among any of the 3 tanks. This is a big perk and intended likely as a means to entice people to play and stay playing tanks (You get to gear 3 jobs for the price of one!).

    Once you start thinking about implementing tanks that don't share this common armor type, you run into issues where tank players have to then decide which tank they want to actually gear, stay with the 3 old ones, or only gear that single one. On top of the then other issue in that if they aren't sharing gear with tanks, they're sharing it with DPS or Healers, and you should ask if that's honestly a good thing that DPS would compete with tanks for gear? So it depends if SE wants to do that or not, I'm of the mind that's an overall bad idea.
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