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    Galaktica's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empress View Post
    Honestly the blame falls onto Square if they don't take the time to make sure they rework tank to become more appealing otherwise it wont matter because everyones just gonna abandon ship from tanks into new dps.
    Again, I'm agreeing with that. My point was that she said "tanking is boring" which, judging from her post history, I assume was supposed to mean "therefore Samurai should be a dps" and I don't think that's good reasoning at all.

    Yes, Square Enix should absolutely try to make tanking more exciting. Giving them more options, akin to the multitude present for dps, is one way to help alleviate possible boredom with the role. Hopefully, Square Enix would opt to do more along with just adding another job.

    Simply saying "well this role sucks so they shouldn't get the new job" is both incredibly selfish and short-sighted. Congrats, you get a new job, but you and everyone else also get queue times that are exponentially longer for the foreseeable future.

    If anything, people should be praying for both a new tank job and that Square finds a way to make tanking more appealing if at all possible.
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    Last edited by Galaktica; 12-27-2016 at 12:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    Sorry I need to shorten this but I agree as well
    I can understand your side on it because its just gonna clog ques, but i think Square is thinking: Oh let them eat Cake. *Aka use the POTD system* or they might possibly make another class that will tank that WON'T be Samurai because I really really dont want Sam to be tank because having yet another Sword tank would be very discouraging for people who want to play swords in a dps state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    If anything, people should be praying for both a new tank job and that Square finds a way to make tanking more appealing if at all possible.
    This person gets it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragology View Post
    Lets say SAM is made into a dps job. Are there any jobs left in the series that could fill the tank role?
    Shogun?
    No but seriously, I really love the idea of SAM tank being called Shogun, and FF14 have a little track record of changing names of jobs + the name has been thrown around quite a bit now.
    There are a few though, but I can't think of many... Mystic Knight is the best one that comes to mind
    There are also original jobs they could tap into, personally would love to see Crusader... uses a Hammer and Holy magic but offensively to make a high DPS tank, IDK.
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    Last edited by Katana190; 12-27-2016 at 01:15 AM.

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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Tanking is boring. #FACT
    you no representative opinion is the actual broing thing here. #FACT
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    The issue most people have with tanking isn't that it is boring but that most people don't feel comfortable in the role because its front and center and very visable. Mistakes and bad tanking are often easily noticed so many people find it stressful. That's not even counting that many groups will often look to the tanks to take the lead.

    I am not to bothered by if SAM is tank or dps. However if it is dps I am hoping we don't see it till 5.0. Two dps will mess up dungeon queues a lot and that is more likely to bother me than which role SAM is in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    Only for temporarily tho. Like we had a lot Dark Knights running around with 3.0 release, but most of them abandoned it once they reached max level.
    That is still at least a month at launch where players are pissed off that they cant level through the MSQ as a dps without queues over an hour long.
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    Azi Kerilade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    That is still at least a month at launch where players are pissed off that they cant level through the MSQ as a dps without queues over an hour long.
    Did that happen in 3.0 when tanks (and healers) had long queues to dungeons? Meanwhile I could hop into dungeon instantly as Machinist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    Did that happen in 3.0 when tanks (and healers) had long queues to dungeons? Meanwhile I could hop into dungeon instantly as Machinist.
    Tank and healer queues weren't particularly bad but they were already an existing shortage so the switch just pulled things closer to being equal.
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    Lets make all the tanks a dps so the so good players that can only play dps will be happy.
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    Lets say SAM is made into a dps job. Are there any jobs left in the series that could fill the tank role?
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    Hiro Azumi
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    I keep seeing the reoccurring theme of "longer queues" "Sam has to be a tank" which is what I'm struggling with, like how will it severely impact getting through the new MSQ, only casuals and new players will have to DF all the MSQ, most of the permanent player base have friends and fcs they can run with and therefore won't queue solo and solo dps are use to the queues anyway.

    Personally I want Sam to be a dps if implemented but that's just personal preference. One thing I know for sure is that if I have to queue solo I'd rather have a slightly longer wait than get stuck with a bad tank because Sam was made a tank and they wanted to play Sam regardless, yeah queues won't be longer but how many of those duties will end up being vote abandoned?
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