Can Red Mage start at level 30?

[ErryK]

Seriously, it doesn't make sense to start at 50. Jobs start at 30. That's a thing, it makes sense, it's why DRK AST and MCH start at 30.

I don't care if that is changed, but I care about consistency. If the other jobs aren't starting at 50 then Red shouldn't.

The issue with consistency is this implies that we will get new Jobs only at Level 30. The issue with this is the gap between endgame and cap, and in my honest opinion, they are expecting this gap, which is why RDM is starting at Lv50.

Now keeping that in mind and enforcing this while the cap is, let's say, 99. That's 60+ levels required out of the player to reach endgame. That's ridiculous... on top of the fact that potentially, the player would be required to hit Lv50 on one class beforehand as well. It's asking too much of a single player.

[AsahinaMyLove]

there will be more new classes on 4.0
I dont want to lv up those from lv30-70 >.>;

Im pretty sure lv70 = same exp as lv1-60 or even more

[AlphaFox]

there will be more new classes on 4.0
I dont want to lv up those from lv30-70 >.>;

Im pretty sure lv70 = same exp as lv1-60 or even more

Well also to note, and someone correct me if I am wrong, the EXP rate for ARR and HW will most likely be increased so it won't be as bad as it was originally to level to 60. Honestly, I am kinda shocked no one has made a poll yet simply asking "Should the Stormblood jobs start at 30 or 50."

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Rogue is a class, started at 1. Ninja is a job, started at 30.
Advanced jobs like regular jobs start at 30 as well.

I'd personally prefer if DRK, AST & MCH had classes, but the current set up makes a sort of sense. Starting at 50 is just arbitrary.

Only because it was introduced before any expansions. They have since acknowledged the class system is dreadful hence the quiet shelving they have done. Red Mage starting at 50 is no different than Heavensward jobs starting at 30. It's putting them closer to the level cap so people can reasonably enjoy leveling them through Stormblood. The majority aren't going to want to slog through old dungeons and content they've been playing for years.

Yes, please! Have my like.

I've mentioned this before, but my desire to start at a lower level stems from two reasons. 1) I enjoy the leveling process. Starting at 50 means fewer levels, which means the job will be capped sooner, which means I'll be "done" with it sooner. Leveling alts is one of my primary activities in MMOs. 2) Starting at 50 means, if I want to make an alt for red mage, I'll need to grind through ARR on a class I have no interest in repeating the leveling process on. This is the same problem that the HW jobs had, and I am very frustrated, because SE ADMITTED that locking the HW jobs away was a mistake. So why are they doing it again? Sheer stubbornness? It can't be ignorance, since they've outright stated they shouldn't have done mch/ast/drk that way.

The devs do not consider alts part of the argument since you have no actually need of them. Nevertheless, the flip side of your argument is by starting Red Mage at 1 or 30, everyone else is now forced to grind through old content-- in essence "locking" them away from their preferred job. One group was always going to be disappointed by this. Personally, while I do not mind leveling in most games, it's not particularly fun in XIV because I can't practice my rotation until level 50. Even with the changes to say, Dragoon. I can at least get a good handle with how my rotation will look. Prior to that? I'm mostly bored spamming Impulse Drive or Full Thrust combo with occasional oGCDs weaved in as I finally get them. Abilities are simply too far apart from 1-50 imo

[Jandor]

Why not start at 60 then?

[ErryK]

Why not start at 60 then?

Believe me, I am asking that as well. But I'm pretty sure the devs know what they are doing.

[Chevronone]

For all us basics...

I like getting my skills one at a time, so I can fuss over where it feels right on my chotbar, getting used to their icons, etc...

When I played new jobs at 30, I felt like I was at buffet and was just putting way too much on my plate cause I have fat kid eyes.

I don't like facerolling for a few dungeon runs...i like to save my facerolls for end game stuff.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Why not start at 60 then?

For story and because they don't want to completely remove leveling. Like I said, at 50, you actually have a rotation to build around. It's the 1-50 grind most people hate.

[Rufalus]

I'm fine with the proposed lv50 start. Don't make them make me do more leveling than I need to lol. Just read what each action does as you place them on your hotbars and you've got hours of leveling from 50 to 70 to get accustomed to the rotation. As long as people take like at least 30 minutes of testing before they rush into an instance with a party then we shouldn't be inconvenienced too much by people not knowing what buttons to push. As for wanting more job story quests... I think we would all like more of all kinds of content but it's a balance of resources. Adding more content unique to each job would take a lot of resources. In an ideal world, there would be completely unique quests and story for each zodiac and anima weapon instead of all jobs sharing the same content on those.

[dragonseth07]

For all us basics...

I like getting my skills one at a time, so I can fuss over where it feels right on my chotbar, getting used to their icons, etc...

When I played new jobs at 30, I felt like I was at buffet and was just putting way too much on my plate cause I have fat kid eyes.

I don't like facerolling for a few dungeon runs...i like to save my facerolls for end game stuff.

But getting everything one spell at a time means you readjust your hotbars every few levels. Your rotation is always changing, and you don't actually get a picture of the class. It's why I've taken every job to 60 in PotD. It lets me organize my hotbars once and never again, and actually see how the class is supposed to work.