Can Red Mage start at level 30?

[Jandor]

Ninja had to lvl rogue, maybe since you care about consistency you should be mad about DRK, AST and MCH starting at 30 and not having to lvl classes.

Rogue is a class, started at 1. Ninja is a job, started at 30.
Advanced jobs like regular jobs start at 30 as well.

I'd personally prefer if DRK, AST & MCH had classes, but the current set up makes a sort of sense. Starting at 50 is just arbitrary.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Rogue is a class, started at 1. Ninja is a job, started at 30.
Advanced jobs like regular jobs start at 30 as well.

I'd personally prefer if DRK, AST & MCH had classes, but the current set up makes a sort of sense. Starting at 50 is just arbitrary.

Only because it was introduced before any expansions. They have since acknowledged the class system is dreadful hence the quiet shelving they have done. Red Mage starting at 50 is no different than Heavensward jobs starting at 30. It's putting them closer to the level cap so people can reasonably enjoy leveling them through Stormblood. The majority aren't going to want to slog through old dungeons and content they've been playing for years.

Yes, please! Have my like.

I've mentioned this before, but my desire to start at a lower level stems from two reasons. 1) I enjoy the leveling process. Starting at 50 means fewer levels, which means the job will be capped sooner, which means I'll be "done" with it sooner. Leveling alts is one of my primary activities in MMOs. 2) Starting at 50 means, if I want to make an alt for red mage, I'll need to grind through ARR on a class I have no interest in repeating the leveling process on. This is the same problem that the HW jobs had, and I am very frustrated, because SE ADMITTED that locking the HW jobs away was a mistake. So why are they doing it again? Sheer stubbornness? It can't be ignorance, since they've outright stated they shouldn't have done mch/ast/drk that way.

The devs do not consider alts part of the argument since you have no actually need of them. Nevertheless, the flip side of your argument is by starting Red Mage at 1 or 30, everyone else is now forced to grind through old content-- in essence "locking" them away from their preferred job. One group was always going to be disappointed by this. Personally, while I do not mind leveling in most games, it's not particularly fun in XIV because I can't practice my rotation until level 50. Even with the changes to say, Dragoon. I can at least get a good handle with how my rotation will look. Prior to that? I'm mostly bored spamming Impulse Drive or Full Thrust combo with occasional oGCDs weaved in as I finally get them. Abilities are simply too far apart from 1-50 imo