So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[KHMarie]

In Final Fantasy XI the name of the Blue Mages were "The Immortals" and they were captained by a man named Raubahn. Gee wonder where that sounds familiar. The Immortal Flames in Ul'Dah is run by Raubahn who just so happens to also be an Ala Mhigan, not to mention that Ul'Dah is rather notorious for it's Ala Mhigan refugee population. I don't know, some people might brush that off, but I think it's just too much of a coincidence.

The other thing that makes me think BLU would just make more sense, is why release Samurai during an expansion about Ala Mhigo? Blue Mage follows the aesthetic much more than Samurai does if we want to make some comparisons to how they were in XI, and I think Samurai deserves a bit more, like being released in an expansion when traveling to Doma.

I also think BLU would make for a better tank than SAM, I am really hoping SAM won't be a tank but ehhh that's a person bias lol.

Long story short, could be SAM which is what most people thing, but in reality I think BLU would make more sense for this expansion at least.

[Shippuu]

The other thing that makes me think BLU would just make more sense, is why release Samurai during an expansion about Ala Mhigo? Blue Mage follows the aesthetic much more than Samurai does if we want to make some comparisons to how they were in XI, and I think Samurai deserves a bit more, like being released in an expansion when traveling to Doma.

Doma is gone, razed to the ground, it's nothing more than a pile of rubble so there's nothing to even go to. The Domans that survived fled to Eorzea via ships to avoid the empire. So if Samurai's come specifically from Doma, then they'd now only really be found in Eorzea. So how does that somehow not fit?

[KHMarie]

Doma is gone, razed to the ground, it's nothing more than a pile of rubble so there's nothing to even go to. The Domans that survived fled to Eorzea via ships to avoid the empire. So if Samurai's come specifically from Doma, then they'd now only really be found in Eorzea. So how does that somehow not fit?

I mean I certainly won't discredit Samurai still being a possibility, but I just think in this EXP that BLU would make more sense. At least to me it does. They could pull an XI and never send us to Othard like they never sent us to the Far East in that game (for the most part), but we know a lot more about that place then we did in XI. I think Samurai still has the potential of being in an Othard inspired EXP in the future, I wouldn't be mad if they added it into Stormblood, but I might be a bit disappointed that they didn't jump at the opportunities to implement BLU.

There is also some evidence to back Raubahn himself being a Blue Mage already, like him using the weapons Tizona which is a BLU specific weapon in XI. He's considered the Bull of Ala Mhigo and he uses abilities that one could relate to primals. He was also once upon a time a dual wielder.

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Two swords: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tOQ9qnhzZC...9-11-38-84.jpg

[Shippuu]

There is also some evidence to back Raubahn himself being a Blue Mage already, like him using the weapons Tizona which is a BLU specific weapon in XI. He's considered the Bull of Ala Mhigo and he uses abilities that one could relate to primals. He was also once upon a time a dual wielder.

Raubhan having anything to do with FFXIV's potential Blue Mages is an incredible reach. His feats we've seen have more in common with Warrior's and their Inner Beast than anything else, and his animal motif is nothing considering he got it from the bloodsands, coliseum fighting, where PvP armor has similar animal motifs as well. The fact he once dual wielded as well is also entirely irrelevant, as the only game Blue mages have done so in was FFXI, and it wasn't even a trait natural to them initially. If you keep going off BLU from FFXI, then it makes the most sense to put them in a Thavnair/Radz-at-Han expansion, which is a place we'd likely go to far sooner than Othard.

That's like saying MCH should use dual pistols because Merlwyb uses 2 pistols. Yet MCH almost nothing to do with Merlwyb in the slightest. Just like despite Yugiri being a Ninja, we actually don't get the abilities she's shown to use. Special characters usually have nothing to do with our actual Jobs in the slightest.

[KHMarie]

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If that's true, then saying that we'd be getting Samurai because the main antagonist could potentially be one would be in the same boat. Just because he could be a Samurai doesn't mean we'd get to, yeah? All I am saying is there is quite a bit to say that BLU could be a potential candidate, and I don't think Yoshi-P would show is Japanese audience a Spider-man shirt expecting them to assume it to be Samurai based of of something extremely discreet like a directors name. Most people in that audience will more than likely come to the conclusion of Blue Mage. Could be right? Or it could be them going to great lengths to confuse people. I wouldn't put it past them, but I think it'd still be nice to see BLU considering how much they could work with.

[Shippuu]

All I am saying is there is quite a bit to say that BLU could be a potential candidate, and I don't think Yoshi-P would show is Japanese audience a Spider-man shirt expecting them to assume it to be Samurai based of of something extremely discreet like a directors name. Most people in that audience will more than likely come to the conclusion of Blue Mage. Could be right? Or it could be them going to great lengths to confuse people. .

I absolutely think the spiderman shirt is hinting towards Blue Mage, but that's the only real hint we've gotten towards blue mage outside of the anniversary event mention. YOU are the one coming up with other weak reasons that have really nothing at all to do with Blue Mage, with the tremendous reaching with Raubhan.

[KHMarie]

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They're simply tidbits in the game I think could help support BLU in the expansion lol. Considering Raubahn is an Ala Mhigan, I am expecting to see him in the expansion, can't say for certain how big or small his role is, but if it does turn out that the second class is BLU that could mean that he really was one to begin with. Really it's the name of his weapon that gets me, that is a very specific choice to have used for him and it didn't just show up in his lore tidbit.
You can see the name of his weapon while he uses abilities very similar to Ifrits during the Eorzean Alliance, that's very recent (https://youtu.be/pM9jrqB2uf8?t=11m50s) . I don't know, to me? That can obviously be easily blown off by some, but I think all things considered it can have implications. Is it reaching? Sure, but it's not reaching as far as the name of a director from a Toby Maguire Spider-Man movie from 2002.

[LionFury1]

In Final Fantasy XI the name of the Blue Mages were "The Immortals" and they were captained by a man named Raubahn. Gee wonder where that sounds familiar. The Immortal Flames in Ul'Dah is run by Raubahn who just so happens to also be an Ala Mhigan, not to mention that Ul'Dah is rather notorious for it's Ala Mhigan refugee population. I don't know, some people might brush that off, but I think it's just too much of a coincidence.
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After reading this, I'm on board with Blue Mage. I was actually heavily convinced that Samurai was going to be added, but when I thought about the indications I was using such as the new Antaganist for storm blood being a Samurai, it wasn't really sufficient information. Just naming some additional reasons that haven't been mentioned that support the Blue Mage Theory:

1) If we are in fact only getting 2 new jobs (based on the tweet), wouldn't it be weird that the only job that exclusively comes out of stormblood would be Samurai? Given the fact that Red Mage is a job accessible in ARR areas, that means we'd unlock Samurai from SB and that'd be it. Honestly that would make no sense. I could see if they were adding three jobs and you could get Samurai and Blue Mage both in SB, but Samurai alone would just be odd because it really doesn't fit into Stormblood/Ala Mhigan lore whatsoever. It makes more sense in Othard/Doma.

2) Stormblood currently seems to be an expansion pack which is borrowing from the world and concepts of Ivalice. You can hear it in its music where there are lots of horns and violins giving sort of a (Royal) sound, and even one of the raids are named Return to Ivalice. With that said, when I try to imagine a job that fits more into the lore and world of Ivalice, I think Blue Mage would be that job at not Samurai.

3) Adding to the Raubahn/Immortal Flames/Blue Mage Theory: Raubahn's weapons are also called Tizona which is the Blue Mage mythic (Relic equivalent in ff14) weapon from FFXI. The weapon style is also a scimitar and not a sword which is a Blue Mage style of weapon.


After giving it some thought, Yoshi-P and the developers like to add jobs that "fit" into the lore of the expansion and Blue Mage actually does that really well, but Samurai? That's a stretch. I am still highly convinced we'll be getting Samurai, but I think it would have to come with another job like Blue Mage if it were to be introduced into stormblood.

[Shippuu]

1) If we are in fact only getting 2 new jobs (based on the tweet), wouldn't it be weird that the only job that exclusively comes out of stormblood would be Samurai?

People are putting too much merit in a tweet from SE's US social networking department, and ignoring the actual comments from Yoshida that imply there's going to be 3 jobs and not 2. On top of that, Yoshida also directly stated that the new jobs in Stormblood would all be started in ARR areas, later confirming RDM starts in Ul'dah. If it's 3 jobs again (likely) Then we will likely see 1 new job in each city state.

2) Stormblood currently seems to be an expansion pack which is borrowing from the world and concepts of Ivalice. You can hear it in its music where there are lots of horns and violins giving sort of a (Royal) sound,

This is a tremendous reach, and even if the music were a nod towards Ivalice games, there's nothing about Blue Mages that are synonymous with Ivalice.

3) Adding to the Raubahn/Immortal Flames/Blue Mage Theory: Raubahn's weapons are also called Tizona which is the Blue Mage mythic (Relic equivalent in ff14) weapon from FFXI. The weapon style is also a scimitar and not a sword which is a Blue Mage style of weapon.

The Raubhan stuff is always a reach, it's a tribute/nod to FFXI and that's pretty much it. Tizona was a trophy from an enemy he bested, and has nothing actually hinting towards Blue Mages aside from names of stuff. This ignores the actual potential hints that Blue Mages may be a thing in Thavnair, through numerous references and characters who are mastering alchemy and techniques involving soul essences.

After giving it some thought, Yoshi-P and the developers like to add jobs that "fit" into the lore of the expansion and Blue Mage actually does that really well, but Samurai? That's a stretch. I am still highly convinced we'll be getting Samurai, but I think it would have to come with another job like Blue Mage if it were to be introduced into stormblood.

Samurai makes just as much sense as us having Ninja, so that argument is pointless too. On top of this, Yoshida straight up talked about Blue Mage at the fanfest as something he'd like to add in the distant future, and reiterated his intent on making it a solo-content only job, where you'd travel the world collecting monster abilities as a "Professor of Monsters". He generally wouldn't discuss it openly like that if it's going to be added in Stormblood and revealed in 2 months. Yet with questions regarding Samurai, he acts coy and/or deflects, which is probably pretty telling.

[ReplicaX]

People are putting too much merit in a tweet from SE's US social networking department, and ignoring the actual comments from Yoshida that imply there's going to be 3 jobs and not 2.

I agree and 3 jobs would be ideal imo. The one role that could possibly not make it into the picture this expansion is a Healer job. The Healer Role is in the worst state of the 3 imo. Balancing and identity being the major areas of concern. Especially min/max raid groups using AST Main/SCH Off for the benefits.

While some ppl will argue about DF queues and a new healer can bring more players into the role. I'd rather have them address the issues of the 3 jobs within the Role first. My opinion is not even based on the want of 2 DPS and 1 Tank. That doesn't even matter to me.

These issues might already be addressed with the new 60-70 abilities each healer job receives and changes to the existing actions they have planned. Why I stated it only as a possibility.